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by d5lt53 hours ago |
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upvoteby buildbot2 hours ago|
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Plenty of experience ;)
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upvoteby d5lt52 hours ago|
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Then why did you comment what you commented, good sir/madam. Claude and Codex are good at remembering to use scripts instead of tools these days, especially if your <32kb .md file mentions it. Not even talking about the skills designed to catch such issues.
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upvoteby weird-eye-issue3 hours ago|
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Sounds like you completely lack all reading comprehension ability

LLMs sometimes like to execute one-off Python scripts to make edits to files rather than just calling the edit tool directly. Both are tool calls so saying that you should have it write code instead of doing tool calls makes no sense because writing code is a tool call for it...

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upvoteby d5lt53 hours ago|
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upvoteby elAhmo2 hours ago|
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Are you saying scripts from agents are deterministic? :)
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upvoteby d5lt52 hours ago|
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Why don't you try to dispove me. Yes, they are _more_ deterministic than tool calls and consume less tokens.
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upvoteby elAhmo2 hours ago|
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There is nothing to disprove as you don't understand what does a word mean. Deterministic is not a spectrum, they can either be deterministic or not. In both cases, they are not.
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upvoteby d5lt52 hours ago|
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Oh, I'm so sorry I touched your paper feelings.

How dared I to imply that some LLM output is more deterministic than the other, your LLM majesty. Shame on me and my entire family! For generations to come!

So sorry I implied that the code that doesn't work and has to be fixed later is deterministic in its execution and can be reused later instead of being re-generated from scratch!

Will I ever wash it off my name, your grace?

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upvoteby arcanemachiner3 hours ago|
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They're talking about writing a file with a harness-native Edit tool. They're saying the agents aren't doing that, but are using ad-hoc methods of writing the files. (My agents seem to prefer see these days.)
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upvoteby d5lt52 hours ago|
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Why do you think your agents prefer to create scripts instead of doing tool calls these days?

I wonder, is it easier to modify a script that agent wrote before to satisfy your prompt, or is it easier to write a new one from scratch each time a retry happens?

Are input tokens more expensive than output tokens?

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upvoteby weird-eye-issue1 hours ago|
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My god. They are not reusing the scripts. They are adhoc, inline Python scripts just used to make a single edit. You seem to fundamentally not understand what everyone else is talking about
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