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> I don't think it's plausible that the leaders of a major business would... commit serious felonies…

Unhinged execs can be surprisingly shitty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal

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I'm not saying they did the hacking intentionally, I'm saying they're intentionally playing loose with the obvious safety measures to make AI seem more dangerous than it is.
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Exactly.
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Didn't they find emails and other things from these leaders where they're okay downloading / obtaining content from illegal sources?
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There’s quite a gap between pirating content (even en masse) and hacking prominent entities.
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No. Not legally.

Has it been normalized? That's another thing.

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Yes, there is legally - even in USA where MPAA & RIAA got widest reach, CFAA is still way more serious law to breach, even at scale
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MPAA & RIAA isn't what I was thinking. Check https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/506, https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2319

This isn't 1 movie.

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A much easier hack by their agents would be on their own systems, but I doubt we'll ever see an external message board full of openAI agents discussing their hacking of their own system. OpenAI not protecting itself from its agents would be irrational, but OpenAI not giving a shit about others is well known. You're giving them way too much credit.
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but like, they did

The HF incident had them pwn their own cluster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_OpenAI_agent_cyberattacks...

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They just need plausible deniability, which is trivial to manufacture at this stage of the game.

"Oops our black box went off the rails. We'll add better logging and alerts next time around."

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I don’t think plausible deniability works this way; the black box is still controlled by them and therefore still their responsibility. They are still liable for its actions and the OAI board should be charged with a felony/felonies for this.

Plausible deniability is “I was away from home when my gun was used to murder someone.” This is, at best, “oops, I pulled the trigger accidentally.”

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Probably not intentionally but they have an incentive in not air-gapping those agents correctly, knowing something might happen.

Incentives drive everything. Both OpenAI and Anthropic love those incidents as they both signal they have models with amazing capabilities and they should be regulated by the government (read: regulation that they will lobby for and that will be difficult to achieve for open source models)

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We have multiple public figures, politicians and business owners, openly committing felonies and bragging about it daily. I don't know why you think this is a deterrent.

The sitting president just offered an open bribe on live television for votes for his party this week.

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While his proposed policy is likely extremely unwise there's nothing illegal about it.
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Bullshit. $5,000 for everyone if they vote to keep the GOP in power is clearly illegal.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597

> Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and

> Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—

> Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

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It's no more illegal than promising a tax cut for everyone if you're elected. What you can't do is promise money exclusively to the people who vote for you. That's bribery.
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I sort of implied the other thing in my comment. But.

There is no version of america that exists today where a billionaire gets sent to prison.

This is the moment in history where this shit is possible and accepted. If they don't do it now, they never can.

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Didn’t Epstein get sent to prison?
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Not initially, no.
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Not exactly a billionaire.
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Regulatory capture is a strategy. It doesn't hurt existing competitors at scale, but it greatly peanalizes newer underfinanced competition.
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