there seems to be a massive negativity to any comment on this story. Andolabs has been doing super interesting stuff, and I’ve always followed Vend Bench with interest.
replyas a founder it really is a dream to automated more of the business and be able to iterate faster.
There's massive negativity because our bullshit detectors are going off.
replyFirst of all, I don't think it can do what it claims to do.
Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, I don't think it should.
> Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, I don't think it should.
replyWhy exactly should what you think the world should look like determine what other people are allowed to build?
People’s bullshit detectors have gone off on the launch of basically every single billion dollar tech company. That’s the downside of being early. No one believes it will work. If everyone believed it, you’re late. I’m sure I could find a comment such this, basically verbatim, on the launch post of every successful startup to come out of YC.
replyThey filed a false report to the FBI, pretty fair to be negative imo. People wanna be mad about AI slop PRs on GitHub but its fine to spam the police? What happens when Pion decides to SWAT a competitor?
replyThey didn't file the report. The model drafted a report that was not sent.
replyWhere are you seeing that? The article only states “Claude Sonnet 3.5 decided to use its email tool to contact the FBI” and later refers to it as the “FBI incident”. If they hadn’t actually contacted the FBI you think they’d make that clear. Regardless, it is inexcusable and they are liable for actions taken by software they are running.
replyThe story has been widely discussed on the web for over a year [1]. It's happily shared in this post because the email it generated was patently ridiculous. No report was filed to the FBI and if it was it would have gone straight to the trash.
replyObviously it would be bad if a serious report was filed; the company shows every sign of being aware of the dangers of this.
It would have been easy to look into this before posting all these scolding comments. We're really not meant to be so humorless on a site called “Hacker News”.
[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22URGENT%3A+ESCALATION+TO+F...
My apologies for taking the article at face value. It’s not hard to believe it would have been sent when agent swarms are “accidentally” hacking real websites and being brushed off as little oopsies. Or when Silicon Valley execs have been so flagrant about their disregard for the law or the safety of others.
reply"Muh boy didn't shoot that man, the gun did!"
replyIt's a relevant question but not a "gotcha". Businesses are not equivalent in complexity and no one at Andon would claim that running an effective vending machine business is similar to running Apple or Jane Street. There is some level of complexity and other characteristics that AI can maybe handle today. That doesn't mean CEOs should be worried about their jobs more generally.
replyThey can’t even run an effective vending machine business though
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