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> So your argument is abusive practices are required for the creation of influential companies, serious technology, and high paying salaries?

They never said anything remotely like that in their comment. Please engage in good faith, don't lie and pretend that others said things they didn't, and don't break the guidelines.

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No but overly burdensome regulatory bodies that are concerned about such things like how the top of my bottle cap functions and how low i set my ac temp leads to an incredibly hostile business environment and stagnant culture.

But like I said, nice place to visit for the time being.

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> nice place to visit for the time being.

Yes, because it’s a place where culture matters and where trying to change everything as fast as possible for unknown reason and handing out unlimited power to corps to e.g. level half the country to build DCs is not seen as a good outcome. The specific mindset you complain about is what makes those place nice.

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The obsession with ACs in some places (or rather people I guess) is something I will never sympathize with. Just wear reasonable clothes for the weather, no need to cool down below 20° C. And yes, I'm going to die on that hill.
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Sometimes the temperature is much higher than 20° C, and it is very hard to be comfortable or do productive work.
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That's true, although having 19° inside when it's 30° outside is bad for several reasons. My office (in Europe) gets cooled down in summer to like 23°, and that's already inconvenient when wearing appropriate summer clothes. And no one is expected to wear formal clothing.
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I never set my AC to lower than 25°C. Why would you need below 20°C? Is it something about having only a single unit for the hole house/office, where it's then uncomfortably freezing in one area, just to have a normal temperature in the distant areas? Crazy.
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> Why would you need below 20°C?

For example because I literally can’t sleep well above 20°C.

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175k ppl die each year in Europe due to heat death. But I guess if you ignore that being slightly warm is not a big deal
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We're talking about mid 30's to low 40's here. I can only get so naked.

But I don't tend to keep my AC below 24 personally. I don't need my room to be perfect room temper2

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What a shitty hill to die on.

I don't know if this is a genetic thing, but as a scandinavian who wears shorts down to like 12C, I am unable to function in >30C humid weather. Anything more labour intensive than drinking sangria on ice is not getting done. This year we had up to 37C in Denmark. If you're able to tolerate heat well, I'm happy for you, but my sleep was ruined for months this summer. Not to mention the people who literally died.

I'm investigating my options for at least cooling down the bedroom at night, because I'm not going through this nonsense again. Plastic straws are banned now and we're sorting garbage in 42 different bins, so I'm thinking that about evens it out, environmentally.

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I see the heat pump hype shaking my head thinking how people long ago use to build with mud and made walls 2-3 meter thick. It takes the entire winter/summer for the climate to get in.

The Amish hang wet bed sheets in front of the window (with a tob under it to recycle the water) not sure how well this works in the Netherlands with 95-99% humidity, it certainly wont raise humidity but evaporation might be shit.

Not every bathroom is fit for it but if there is no AC and things become unbearable I put the shower head upside down so that the ceiling and walls get wet and it rains everywhere. Then I daisy chain fans to "tunnel" the air into the bathroom. The temperature drops like a rock.

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Not everyone can tolerate 20C, you know. I know people who freeze at anything below like 25C, but I myself have trouble not sweating my ass off above like 18C. I don't wear additional clothes in winter (though maybe that's simply because winter here hasn't actually reached below freezing in years).
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> overly burdensome regulatory bodies that are concerned about such things like ... how low i set my ac temp leads to an incredibly hostile business environment and stagnant culture

Like the US of A?

Also various stars have introduced more bottle cap regulations. One such state is a hotbed for inflated software developer salaries.

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You don't think all industrial countries have stuff like that? Do you really think the European economy is stifled by bottle caps being attached to their bottles by default? Even if it bothers you, it's a really weak attachment, you can just pull it off.
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Beats companies and governments being openly hostile towards the people

You know, the thing that actually makes a country/society

Putting the needs of business over the needs of the people those businesses are actually supposed to serve is how you end up with America

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> overly burdensome regulatory bodies that are concerned about such things like how the top of my bottle cap functions

Better than a government that fears the word gay

> and how low i set my ac temp leads to an incredibly hostile business environment and stagnant culture.

You are quite a cherrypicker, aren’t you?

How about the regulation to have USB-C as a standard or replaceable batteries.

Or one of my favorites, the ban of ingredients that cause cancer.

BTW ever heard of Frauenhofer IIS or ASML?

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