I hadn't connected the dots until you mentioned it, but yeah this keynote indirectly says it's the end of Ruby and Rails. Ruby was designed to be coded by humans, and DHH says it's the end of coding by hand.
replyThose performance numbers mean nothing considering they went from rendering every single view of a highly interactive app solely on their servers to moving all rendering to the clients. It’s possible the backend logic of the app could have run on 10 hosts running Ruby as well.
replyI agree it seems like the end of Ruby on Rails. I personally hope a fork will come along as a spiritual successor, because I still love building web apps this way.
Agents might pick up Topcoat (inspired by Rails) as the framework for those Rust apps.
replyit is sorta sad that framework development will dry up with fewer incentives.
replyI actually believe new frameworks and languages will pop up that are explicitly made to supercharge agentic engineering workflows. We're still super duper extra early! November last year was the START of all this. We're still in September! Not even one year has passed!
replyWhere will we be in 5 years?
Examples:
It doesn't make much sense to use a human language like Ruby and leave so much on the table when you can use a language like Rust or C to squeeze a LOT more out of correctness/types/performance.
We're going to have a bunch of hardly used libraries/frameworks that might converge on a single one. Similar to the surge in JS frameworks/libraries from a few years back and where we are now.
replyIs squeezing a lot more performance beneficial to a business? or is it a small amount of VPS cost per month difference?
It helps to be clear, at least with yourself, about if you're doing something because you can/want to or if there are actual business reasons.
This is my first attempt at a AI framework and I'm pretty happy with it
replyUnfortunately yes because Rails has always been a framework of extraction. Now they are not even coding anymore there is nothing to extract. No one is a programmer but everyone is a maker.
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