Yet to be determined if they actually ship or do stuff at a reasonable rate. It only has any notoriety because of the subject matter and jumping on the hate-DHH train.
replyI guess they've been "laying the groundwork" of a fork that claims to just want to rename things and do little else for over a month?
Heh. It's always funny how people like that don't see their irony of being "inclusive" of "all backgrounds" just after having made a long list of people who they will throw out immediately for vague transgressions that are based on rumors and innuendo.
replyWhere's the irony? They are happy for anyone to be a part of their community, unless you are making other in their community feel unwelcome. It's spelled out in their code of conduct for you. If you're making innuendos that make other people feel unwelcome, you are not welcome
replyList of people thrown out as per the linked site:
> nazis, transphobes, racists, or any kind of bigotry
replyWhich part is the vague transgression?
because once you attempt to start to apply any label it becomes more and more vague. If I am a black man from South Africa who hates white people for perpetuating the Apartheid, am I welcome or am I a racist? If I am a man who's own father transitioned to being a woman and I no longer feel comfortable around trans-people because I lost my 'father figure', am I a transphobe or am I welcome? I understand these are deliberately obtuse examples. I bring them up because I never know where on the spectrum the line is drawn for these labels yet people will gladly declare somebody a 'nazi' because their dad watches Fox News. Even asking the question "when does somebody on the right go far enough to be considered a fascist?" often is met with the retort "defending nazis makes you a nazi".
replyI'd be curious to know your answers to these because they seem rather obvious to me..
replyJust because some people calling someone a nazi are wrong doesn't mean everyone calling someone a nazi is wrong.
We both know what the 'answer' is because we are normal people who understand nuance - a skill many people have lost as they have come to have their ideals defined by their identity, not the other way around.
reply> Just because some people calling someone a nazi are wrong doesn't mean everyone calling someone a nazi is wrong.
Sometimes they aren't just wrong, they are the loudest.
From this reply your answer could still be read either ways and that someone is still a nazi regardless of how loud someone is.
replyThose of the conservative persuasion love to use the loudness of some people to invalidate all condemnations of nazis, right or wrong.
So it seems this started because of DHH. Let's judge the technology by the technology, else we are just taking a holier-than-thou approach whereby we think we are better than others because we don't commit certain sins, which is a real problem because when we look inwardly and honestly we shall see that we are guilty of many of the same sins. Let's judge the technology for the technology itself and leave personal ideology out of it. My 2 cents (which will inevitably be downvoted)
replyTo be clear for anyone reading, the “personal ideology” here is racism with a white supremacist leaning.
replyAside from the actual politics, DHH is clearly in "fuck you mode". I certainly don't trust that he's going to make decisions in the interest of the broader rails community.
replyspeak for yourself, I never compare people to shoot wolves
replyThat post called for deportation and not killing of illegal immigrants. If you people ever interact outside your bubble, those are normal opinions held by normal people (even though I would not consider DHH normal) and you people are snowflakes.
replyIn any case railers are screwed (or railed, if I may). Either use the upstream which DHH is going to slopify and slowly kill, or use these forks by left-fascists who might happily sabotage you for perceived wrongthink in future.
In the absurd post-truth future we find ourselves in a situation where wrong think just means anything right of what Hasan Piker thinks on a given day.
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