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> a CLI app does exactly what you ask for, and has a manual documenting exactly what command do what, and the output is consistent, the same command does the same thing period

This is a very software-engineery point of view and totally false for the ordinary user. Heck, it is even false for me as a software engineer.

> since you know people like moving a mouse and clicking on buttons

No, they like well-designed user interfaces, and the UI design of a typical CLI is abysmal.

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> the UI design of a typical CLI is abysmal

The nice thing about a CLI is that even if you don't like the interface you're given, it's trivial to put an interface you do like in front of it. Much harder to do that with a point and click interface.

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> Heck, it is even false for me as a software engineer.

Amen

Honestly, the gap from knowing which command line tool you probably need, to the command that does what you need... Prior to AI I have replicated probably a thousand command line capabilities in Ruby because I just couldn't be bothered.

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> a CLI app does exactly what you ask for, and has a manual documenting exactly what command do what

*a small percent of apps behave like this

> it may do what you want but there is a change it won't and you have to fight it to get the desired result

The vast majority of all software made in the last ten years falls into this category. This includes the goddamn operating system itself.

I don't think you're making the argument you think you're making.

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>> Chatbots are far WORSE than traditional UI for everything. If some product has a chatbot functions it's the first thing I disable, if it's not possible to disable it, I avoid the product.

The chatbot we added to our B2B product is by far the most popular addition we've made this year. Our users are not tech-savvy, they use a lot of apps everyday and don't want to have to learn and keep up with just another UI. So they like being able to type their wants and needs in plain language (or speak it into their phone, if they are in the field) and get a plain language response back with embedded images and charts.

YMMV of course.

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Popular and far worse is not really an unusual combination
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> So they like being able to type their wants and needs in plain language (or speak it into their phone, if they are in the field) and get a plain language response back with embedded images and charts.

I note you didn't mention accurate and reliable.

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