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I don't understand why they didn't call 6-Sol just 6-Terra. It was 5.6-Terra level pricing with a perf jump.
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I don't understand any of this naming man. It just gets more confusing.
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I like it. It's cool and better than Opus, Fable, Sonnet etc.

Like who can figure out the ordering? With Luna < Terra < Sol < Astra it's obvious at a glance.

I propose for some third company to name after monsters: Cyclops < Minotaur < Ettin < Cerberus < Hydra < Kraken < Nyarlathotep (the AGI singularity stage)

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> With Luna < Terra < Sol < Astra it's obvious at a glance.

It.. is?

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It’s not… why do I need to translate from Latin (or wherever these come from) to understand them? Opus, Sonnet, and Haiku do the same thing, and are widely known words. Not to mention all LLMs do is generate tokens; I prefer the homage to writing over a space reference.
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Boy wait till you find out where "opus" comes from.. Do you realize how many words from Latin you used in that comment?

When was the last time you heard anybody say "opus" or "sonnet" before this?

Also it implies that "haikus" are inherently inferior to longer texts which may be kinda frown-inducing..

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It isn’t ? ;) celestial bodies Are memorable
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it really isn’t

clear would be something like

piss-cheap - it’s-alright-i guess - okay-relax - ouch-my-wallet

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yes, each of these things are larger than the other
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If that holds then the ultimate model must be called Urmom
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and wth is an "astra"?
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My brain immediately translated "Luna -> Terra -> Sol -> Astra" to "Moon -> Earth -> Sun -> Galaxy", an overall growing of size. While sure, "astra" doesn't directly translate to "galaxy", it's the base of the word "astronomical" and "astronomy".

I feel like people who don't get it immediately are just being deliberately obtuse.

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Astra means stars.

The more obvious, to me, interpretation was distance from us so I would've expected Terra -> Luna -> Sol -> Astra.

When I think of space and astronomical scales, I think of distance as much more common concern.

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I don't doubt that you feel that way, and there's no way I can really provide you any evidence. But I wasn't trying to be obtuse.
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"Ad Astra" my guy. "To The Stars"

Many of which are thiccer than our beta ass sun

Pretty badass name tbh

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Bigger => Bigger, makes sense to me.
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There is also more room upwards. Galaxy? Quasar? Filament?
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Maybe if English is your first language it does.
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I mean, Haiku < Sonnet < Opus < Fable/Mythos makes just as much sense. They're larger and larger works.
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Many people would get confused on the order of Opus, Fable and Mythos. In my mind, they are even from different groups; fable is a synonym forba fairytale (perhaps with songs), mythos is communicating importance and status instead of a size, while opus is the only one which in my mind communicates a big size. "What did you think about the Tolstoy's book? It was not a book, but a real opus, a tedious, incomprehensible, sluggish monumental opus."
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Waiting on Limerick to drop.
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opus fable sonnet haiku is way more obvious than luna terra sol astra imo
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"When in doubt, baffle them with b*llshit"
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Terra is the "missing middle" model and had no positive brand recognition. Sol was for intelligence, Luna was for efficiency. Luna max was cheaper and smarter than terra light and sol light was better than terra max.
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Because they asked the model what it wanted to be called?
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I mean, when I upgraded my pipeline from terra to sol saying "it's the same price basically!" I was excited. Probably would not have felt as excited if it was just a version bump.

Not sure that's why they did it. But that was my experience.

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Was it a last-minute panic, or just OpenAI releasing an update when the had a bit more training under their belt to make 6.1-sol a whole lot better? Either way, I'm extremely pleased and will be giving this model a shot.
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That seems likely, in the API GPT-6.1 Sol requires reasoning, just like Astra, whereas GPT-6 Sol (and Luna) allow "none"
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Theo dropped their Sol 6.1 video and he says he can't tell you, but, shows enough to make it pretty clear. https://youtu.be/vu8X3YroB-w#t=5m30s

The smoking gun is how much slower than Sol 6 this is. It's not a retrain.

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Sol 6 was pretty good the first 4 days or so of it's release. Then it was probably dialed back to a lower effort level and it became really bad.
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