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But that's where the "Why?" comes in.

At a time when corporate CEOs are largely saying that they can't see that AI has improved office productivity at all, why should we believe that a killer productivity application of genai that's amazing enough to justify an order of magnitude increase in enterprise spending on productivity tools is just around the corner?

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Are they saying it right now?

I think CEOs could honestly say it a year ago, but by now the numbers of those who say so should be dwindling.

Recent surveys by BCG and others suggest things have changed.

Personally, I know many people in different fields who’ve seen crazy speed ups in many of their tasks.

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Maybe they are speeding up things that were not the bottleneck or don't matter. Or LLMs speed up the time to learn, "well this idea probably sucks actually", which is great, but in the end there is still no good idea. For software dev, it had already gotten pretty efficient before LLMs came around - the business of making software demanded it. There are still gains to be had no doubt, but many will have less impact.

I'm using claude to make gaming mod apps I never would have bothered to code before, but they have zero monetizable value. There is demand for sure, but somewhat ironically, copyright/IP/TOS law stands in the way. The thing which committed the biggest copyright infringement in human history lets me make another thing which I can't release because of copyright law. I'd get cease-and-desisted instantly if I did so.

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Correct framing.

Many here are idiotic. Economic growth is measured via monetisation of output - not what you think is of value to you.

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The latest BCG report I saw on this was the one from this summer that found that employees are saying they're saving time, but businesses still haven't figured out how to turn that into dollars.

And employees self-reporting that they saved time doesn't necessarily mean they actually save time. Humans are famously crap at estimating that sort of thing.

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But does crazy speedup of tasks actually yield more productivity? Or does it yield greater numbers of pointless tasks?

Anecdotally, I've seen management using AI to produce more and more flashy looking dashboards and interactive displays of various metrics. Will this help our bottom line?

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If management spends their idle time building dashboards by themselves instead of taking up developer time asking for dashboards to be built and populated for them, there might be productivity to be had...
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I don't really care what CEOs say - most of them are, for lack of a better word, idiots. They're all MBAs that wouldn't know a revolutionary technology from a hole in the ground.

I see how useful AI tools are for myself and can't imagine it not changing the world over the next few decades.

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Are you putting your money where your mouth is and creating a startup then?

If not then a) don’t diss the mba folks b) you don’t have as much conviction as you claim c) if you are then send a link so I can review?

Cheers

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> This of course hinges on the big if: does AI create wealth? I think yes, but maybe not $6 trillion of it in five years.

There is also the question of time scale. Growing a market takes time. Assuming the numbers above are the right order of magnitude, we are not going from 0.1 to 1 in a year. So even if the number would make sense over longer time frames, it can still be unsustainable for a significant amount of time before that.

Like the Internet at the end if the 1990s, basically.

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I think you are mixin wealth with money. In the short run it is a near zero sum game: money should go from A (now obsolete) to B. For example, brick and mortar shops replaced by online shops. For example horse business going bankrupt while car business is booming. Wealth is created in the form of more convenient shopping or travelling, not as $$$. AI might help some businesses with their productivity (creating new wealth), but those business are expected to divert $6T from current expenses (wages, or non AI tooling) towards AI pockets, or steal $6T market share from non-AI business.
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>For example horse business going bankrupt while car business is booming.

But also the car business is far larger than the horse business ever was. It is not zero-sum; every time Henry Ford's factory spit out a new model T, real wealth was being created.

Money is just a standin for wealth. If we suddenly doubled the amount of wealth in the world, we could just print more dollars to match - or the existing dollars would just become worth twice as much.

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This. Positive sum games are deflationary. Economic policy can, and has, offset the deflation of techno capital growth.
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If you show productivity, banks have no problem lending you money (new freshly printed money)
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Indeed, although there are also pressures pushing banks to lend out money regardless of created wealth. This is why there's so much investment into stupid things like AI - they call it TINA or "There Is No Alternative" (to put your dollars into). The scale of AI is as big as it is because there were huge pools of money sloshing around looking for things to invest into, that's the underlying problem that caused the RAM crisis, not AI itself.
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More productivity might translate into more revenue, but more productivity doesn't necessarily create more wealth.

For example, if I'm a landlord that uses AI to more intelligently price rental increases to maximize profit without attrition, I have created more revenue but not more wealth.

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Wealth creation happens in positive sum games. Wealth destruction happens in negative sum games. Winners and losers are decided in zero sum games.

Play positive sum games.

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The non-zero-sum game is a concept that cuts both ways. If wealth can be created, it can also be destroyed.
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No matter how productive you are, at some point producing more does not yield more return. We live in a finite world.
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I think the Labor Theory of Value is going to bite these companies and the economy as a whole in the end
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The labor theory of value has been debunked for over a century and modern economics doesn't use it.
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this also happened with the internet. 6T is possible only if AI creates more wealth. same as with internet. Its not a zero sum game.
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Indeed, it is hard to say exactly how much wealth the internet creates, but it's a lot. E-commerce alone is $30 trillion industry; some estimates put the total economic value of the internet at $200 trillion or higher.

That said, this came too late for investors in the dot-com boom. AI investors may find themselves in a similar situation.

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And, perhaps more to this particular point, it came too late for vendors behind the dotcom boom. Lucent Technologies no longer exists. WorldCom no longer exists. Cisco is a shadow of its former self, with a stock price that only recovered last year.
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Cisco is a profitable company making useful products and services. The fact that we consider that a failure is damning.
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The dotcom bubble burst because the development of the internet could not keep up with expectations, even though investors were correct in principle with their assumption it would generate swaths of wealth. For AI the hope is that AI itself will start to push its own development and adoption sooner rather than later, so the timing issue that killed dotcom investors might instead make AI investors insanely rich. That's why we're still seeing heaps of money getting dumped into it.
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That’s a very charitable take.

Without smartphone, cellular networks etc you’d be miles off. Nobody had this in their thesis so they were plain wrong.

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It isn't exactly not a zero sum game either though. If you want to sell something you have to have willing buyers with either funds on hand or sufficient credit to make the purchase. So yeah that 6T gotta come from somewhere.
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