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I heard someone calling the key metric in Anthropic financial reports EBBT: Earnings Before Bad Things[1] :-)

[1] Where "Bad Things" would be the typical interest, taxes, depreciation, amortisation plus the Anthropic specific employee compensation, LLM training (you know, for the LLM lab), revenue sharing agreements (which is a form of paying for infrastructure), etc.

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A recent YouTube video by Patrick Boyle said the same thing. They are only profitable if you ignore all the costs that make them unprofitable such as paying employees and developing A models.
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That's not how gross margin works.

For LLMs, marginal cost is just electricity

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I made a statement about whether Anthropic was profitable I don't understand your reply.

Assuming you meant to reply to me and not someone else are you saying under GAAP accounting standards Anthropic is a profitable business because under GAAP accounting their only expense is electricity?

(I see what happened you skimmed the conversation and didn't follow what was being discussed.)

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There's also things like training costs, spend on AI data centres and GPUs, R&D, sales and marketing, etc. See e.g. https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/anthropics-ipo-pros....
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Those are not marginal cost or unit economics
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If the "fixed costs" kill you unit economics won't save you. Scare quotes because true fixed costs generally have a long shelf life. Right now AI models die every 6-9 months.
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1. And that marginal cost is large, much larger than the marginal cost of serving a Google Search query

2. The marginal cost is electricity until the hardware overflows. So it's continuous for electricity and a step function for hardware capacity.

Plus you don't address the core point. Frontier AI is capital intensive. A lot more capital intensive than regular software. The existing clouds supporting the entire internet (!!!!) were built for a fraction of the cost of AI infrastructure, and there isn't even an end in sight to this continuous hardware investment.

Let alone hardware refresh cycles.

AI is basically investment into roads.

Software used to be a magical place, closer to selling music albums but even better.

AI is a much worse business margin wise than regular software.

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Investment is not a subsidy. Words still have meanings. Nobody in this thread has successfully answered the question: subsidized by whom?

Non-punishment is also not a subsidy; again, words have meanings. Let's use the correct words.

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Indirect subsidies are an accepted economic concept and well studied. The posts you replied to are obviously talking about indirect subsidies and dismissing them because they didn't say "indirect" everywhere is just sophism.
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But some investments are subsidized (tax liabilities) among all the other things.
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