There’s about a 1 in 10 chance when someone spells it (or says it) they say Herbert.
Even in situations where they just read it or I just said it.
I’ve had Herbert soccer trophies, health insurance cards, etc.
The mind fills in a lot of blanks and doesnt always get them right.
While it takes a good math person to make breakthroughs it's much easier to find someone who has a feel of whats important/hard and not. Even a mediocre math major/master is far more authoritative than an expert at adjacent fields (CS,physics). Or to listen to webdevs 'ai skeptics' or whatever on the internet.