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Reading (the largest town in the UK btw) has other tunnels … for example https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/14492484.sneak-a-pea... and there is a rumour of secret escape tunnels from the (medieval) abbey.
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Swindon has a significantly larger population than Reading.
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dang … guess I am stuck in 1961 https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/census/EW1961PRE/1?utm_so...

fwiw I just threw this in since many on HN probably don’t know much about Reading

red face

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Swindon has been growing like crazy. ~92,000 in 1961 to ~233,000 in 2021. Passing Reading's population in the 90s.

>many on HN probably don’t know much about Reading

Maybe it is better that way. ;0)

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It's a city that can be annoyingly hard to Google. If, for example, you search for "Reading Library" you basically get ALL THE LIBRARIES... :)
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It's still a town (despite efforts to the contrary).
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I actually lived there for a few years, I guess I'd forgotten that the millenium bid fell through :)

Edit: By the by I do intend to visit again at some point if only to see the DEC exhibition at the town museum (if that's still on) and perhaps swing by Sweeney's pie shop (if that's still open).

Oh, and now I see from a sibling comment that there was another bid in 2022! It gives me a twinge of national pride that British rules on City-hood are so weird!

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DEC exhibition closed 10 months or so ago, but the museum is still worth visiting for the copy of the Bayeux Tapestry.

Sweeney Todd is still open :)

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> DEC exhibition closed 10 months or so ago

Damnit.

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I can't imagine Swindon being a better town to know than Reading, though.
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I know both Reading and Swindon quite well, and prefer Swindon. Subjective, obviously.
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when I worked in Swindon (Intel fwiw), HR told all the Americans “draw a circle 15 miles radius around Swindon station and live outside it”
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I heard similar about Croydon.
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Instructions unclear, living 15 miles out to sea.
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I thought it was made city status a while back too!
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Nope.

"In the end, the 2022 contest saw Reading beaten to the post by Dunfermline, Bangor, Douglas, Doncaster, Wrexham, Colchester, and nearby Milton Keynes. "

https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/25782760.reading-not...

A lot of sources seem to cite Reading as 'England's largest town' but maybe that is by area, rather than population? Also depends on where you put the boundary.

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> town

That's where the problem lies. I spend too much of my life screaming into the void about UK addresses and what is and isn't a town :)

It's just about possible to create dataset of towns, cities, villages from mixing and matching and cutting up other geographies from the ONS (e.g. their Parished and Unparished data (though Unparished is its own nightmare), then the ONS Built-Up Areas dataset but... that one cuts out all the non-built parts so Milton Keynes is bunch of big blobs around the residential areas).

But if you frankenstein it, you lose all of the formal connections that define other links, and if you try to cheat via geospatial join, you will link police forces to areas they don't actually serve.

For Swindon, you're kinda stuck glueing together (going from memory here - please correct me if I'm off) the Parishes of Central Swindon, South Swindon and West Swindon. But these will overlap with some villages so it's not a true count.

And that's a natural moment to lead on to the next critical point: how're we measuring population? (I always get that Father Ted speech scene in my head thinking about this, start speaking - then twelve hours later "And now, we move on to liars")

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>how're we measuring population?

The UK census seems as good a measure as any.

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>The UK census seems as good a measure as any.

Agreed, and it's a reasonable first reach for residential counts.

Problem is, it was last taken during 2021 - at the height of covid - and their estimates have been paying the price of it even since. Anything that touches on workday or employment they actively warn you away from, nowadays.

But then there's the elephant in the room: what if you're looking at somewhere like the City of London (the square mile one) where residential population is somewhere between 8,500 and 9,000 people?

EDIT: it slipped by me!

There is no single UK-wide census. NRS do Scotland's, last in 2022. NISRA handle Northern Ireland's census, last in 2021. And the ONS for England and Wales, last in 2021.

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The city of Znojmo in Czech Republic has 4 levels of catacombs and underground passages, 27 km in length:

https://znojmoregion.cz/cs/znojemske-podzemi-znojmo# (switch language to English)

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lol, might be like trying to get the doors between adjacent hotel rooms open with strangers.

> convince random neighbours across the street to open their access doors

Would definitely work with kids. if there were a bunch of 10yo kids there would definitely be an underground kids mischief network.

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Underground kiez would kill in Berlin
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aren't there some abandoned U-Bahn tracks?
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