Should they pay for their pipelines too?
replyAfter all, they should know how to compile their software. Any automation of that process is cheating their employer.
Sure. Should I also pay rent for my desk at the office?
replyThey're welcome to let you use the desk at your house that you own.
replyYou're opening yourself up to data right and privacy risks with that. My company demands that I use their enterprise account because they can claim full ownership of all produced output and have full logs of every interaction.
replyI think that gets legally murky, if the employee is the one who pays for the tool.
The forklift should just be paid for by the employee. After all they should be strong enough to do work without one.
replyThe better analogy would be "Tools should be paid for by the mechanic". Experienced ones tend to have $10K+ worth of tools that they paid for.
replyI don't understand your logic, why would an employee pay for a tool their employer wants them to use?
replyYeah that only makes sense if they are a freelancer/contractor.
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replyIf my employer is not forcing me to use a tool and gives me freedom, I'll be perfectly OK to use my own tools which I bought with my own money.
replyIf my employer is putting scoreboards to see and champion who uses a tool which costs money to use, they shall pay for the tool.
Sorry, I'm not a ladder climber, yet I'm not mindless enough to bankrupt myself.
I could still do my job by typing all code into notepad, but companies don't charge employees for their IDE usage for a reason.
replyAnd I could do my job by paying someone overseas to do it for me. Why is that not paid by the employer then?
replyNah. Work provides the tools.
replyAn LLM is not too dissimilar to a Work Laptop or an IDE license.
I am fine with that if I can keep the time saved for my personal use.
replyI’d love it if I could bring my own computer to do my work, rather than be stuck with garbage hardware because of an enterprise agreement.
replyWait, okay maybe I'm in a bubble, but every org I've worked at understood that giving us whatever hardware we want more than pays for itself, and very quickly.
replyI can't fathom the logic of paying 10k a month for a developer and giving them an 800 device.
Insane. Your leadership is severely broken. If you can, work somewhere that values you.
Employer pays tools used for work. Whether they are used to speed up work or to make it possible.
replyAs someone who does have to pay for my own AI tools (if I didn't use OpenCode's free models), I agree.
reply"employees should foot the bill for tools that directly benefit their billion dollar employers"
replyIn California this would mean the employee would own the IP -- or at least it would be murky -- and companies and lawyers don't like murky.
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