GLM 5.3 is very impressive and definitely better, but it also at least 4x the price.
replyOn that note I’ve been subbing in MiMo-2.6-pro when cost is an issue, which is super cheap and also performing really well.
DS4 (not 4.1) crossed my dont-care threshold and I genuinely stopped paying attention to new models. I'd love to try GLM 5.3 but I just don't see any point in spending the effort any more. I can get passable intelligence for a bargain price either direct from China or from a ZDR EU provider for a small markup. Paying 10x more will not make me 10x happier, it's unlikely to make me even 1.1x happier now I've got some intuition for the natural limits of these models.
replyI don't even bother checking how much I spent on API any more, its well under $30 over the past 2 months despite daily constant use. Who even needs a subscription at these numbers?
I’m sure it’s more intelligent but the speed of DS is so freaking fast I can’t user slower models anymore
replyBut it also frequently uses massively more tokens for the same task compared to other models which kind of negates the speed.
replyI'm simply not seeing this
replyWallclock time matters and GLM 5.3, even when it is considerably slower (~30 tokens right now vs 100+ on DeepSeek 4) it is quite frequently faster on the same set of tasks overall. Deepseek 4 seems to do the 'Oh, wait' thing just about forever and has a tendency to find irrelevant rabbit holes that it then spends a massive amount of tokens on.
replyIDK what happened today but I used GLM-5.3 as usual from Ollama cloud and it was so fast it generated entire documents like instantly.
replyThe reasoning and the result document were done after less than 1 or 2 seconds.
Have Ollama suddenly bought GPU capacity?
There is also GLM 5.3 Flash
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