Personally I find this shocking. I don't think our application is that complicated, (typescript full stack graphql reactnative etc) but deepseek 4.1 flash is a bumbling fool, junior-level at best, who takes a very long time to make a very big mess. Opus 5.5 one shots truly impressive code in 5 minutes, while deepseek 4.1 flash takes 20 minutes to do horribly. I simply don't understand how folks claim they get good engineering out of it. Maybe we still care enough about the fundamentals to notice the mess ...
replyAre you using OpenRouter? I’m honestly surprised open model labs haven’t been calling them out, but heaps of providers either silently serve heavily quant versions, or don’t have inference set up correctly and don’t run the model properly.
replyWas a night and day difference going directly to deepseek api
In this case, I was using Hugging Face inference set to one of a few American providers. For my professional work, I do not use Chinese inference.
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