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> there wasn't a ton of explanation given beyond the general vibe of "ai bad"

I'm very bullish on AI, but vibe-porting the piece of software you're the main maintainer over a few weeks without letting anyone in the community know and pushing that as a fait accompli to both your userbase and your open source community is definitely the kind of behavior that makes you not trustworthy enough to depend on.

by swyx6 hours ago|

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as a counterpoint, your fears are hypothetical so far - nobody on earth cares as much about bun as the bun team and if it was good enough for them it is probably good enough for 99% of users

by inknight6 hours ago|

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i think someone who has built their infra on top of bun and have bills to pay care much more about bun stability than the team who get paid by Anthropic to vibecode an entire rewrite to another lang

by phoghed6 hours ago|

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> someone who has built their infra on top of bun and have bills to pay

they were stupid to do this in the first place. bun has always been a one man show. what were their plans for when he got hit by a bus?

by topato1 hours ago|

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I totally thought the other guy had you in the argument, and your retort blew my mind. An excellent point, people really need to research their runtimes before placing the entirety of your infra on them. Then again, I suppose that’s partially the reasoning for the existence of support contracts. I’m just going to add this here, but: was this whole thing just an aquihire? The dude is a badass, so I can see buying deno just to get him… skillset matches the areas cloadflare has roadmapped out, but still needs to shore up (a lot)

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by tech234a7 hours ago|

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The vibecoded rewrite led to the deprecation of support for Bun but I believe Deno was already the default. Also Bun had the note “No permission restrictions available. Scripts have full file system and network access.”

by its-summertime7 hours ago|

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If I remember correctly, Deno was always priority number 1 due to having a permissions system. Bun's removal due to the rewrite had people complaining using Deno as the focus as Deno's development shifted towards being LLM heavy. Node now supporting permissions would likely be the priority now.

by tedivm7 hours ago|

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There was a ton of criticism beyond "ai bad". A complete rewrite, in a different language, is a brand new project. It doesn't have any where near the hardening as the previous version thousands of deployments. If they had done that exact same thing but without AI people still would have been upset.

by locknitpicker7 hours ago|

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> As I recall, they picked Deno over Bun during the whole vibecoding rewrite fiasco from six months ago, and there wasn't a ton of explanation given beyond the general vibe of "ai bad".

Your comment is baffling. Either you lost track of the story or you've opted to post a very simplistic take on the whole Bun fiasco. Bun's ill-advised rewrite had zero technical grounds and the radical drop in release cadence in spite of all the AI backing suggests the project's foundation lays on shaky ground.

by simonw1 hours ago|

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I don't think that's a good interpretation of what happened.

Bun's release cadence dropped because they had just ported to a new language and they weren't about to release that to their community without letting it settle in for a couple of months first - which they did, by running it in Claude Code on millions of computers.