I feel like half the game now is marketing though, so I can see why they'd be attractive to an investor. Maybe if they scale they can come up with something.
replyYou can replicate any fitness app in no time and you will make close to $0. Brand recognition matters a lot.
replyYeah but there are also network effects of using fitness apps. Every engineer I know switches easily between Codex and Claude Code when one gets better than the other.
replyJev has been around for a couple weeks. Cost and performance matter more than anything. Staying with an existing provider (the # of people choosing Jev without already having a frontier API key is probably zero?) is way easier than this.
What the hell are we even talking about.
100%. Product finesse + Marketing is now the "moat".
replyIt’s like openclaw. There was a bunch of technically better ones that came along afterwards, but nobody remembers what any of them were called.
replyYou say this, while Hermes Agent has been at top of the openrouter.ai leaderboard for several months and currently has 3X the token usage of OpenClaw.
replyWhat? OpenClaw has been completely replaced by Hermes and others in the discourse
replyAnd Muse is what normal people use instead
replyIt’s the classic SV flip. You scale your investors, your executive team, your sales people, hire a bunch of engineering you don’t need, then sell the company. The company’s product doesn’t matter, the company is the product.
reply> Their 2 years of stealth was replicated in 2 weeks.
replyActually they stolen the idea from a paper.
So did Oracle with relational databases by that logic
replyEither the investors know something we don't, or the market is irrational.
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