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The assumption being made of course cultures must only change from external forces and that they cannot change internally. It comes from an ancient caste based world view where people are defined by their birthright and do not change from this, that we know now is foolish to believe in.
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Yep. Trying to steer culture is like grasping at smoke

Smart phones and social media have impacted culture most places far more than a few immigrants ever could - folks should spend more time worrying about those and less scapegoating of immigrants

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It's a fringe party with fringe opinions. It got 0.59% of votes in the last election despite the huge funds provided by the Mullvad co-founder.
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A citizen is a citizen. You don't create second class citizen, who can see their rights revoked at any time, whereas the other class never has to fear anything like that. That's basic democracy 101.
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Multiple citizenship is handled with quite a bit variance over the globe, including those we call democracies. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship

Citizenship obligations for multiple citizenship is quite interesting from a legal perspective. Some citizenship require taxation regardless of where one live, which makes it possible to have a requirement to pay taxation to multiple countries. Military service is also an other interesting aspect. Giving people with multiple citizenship more rights than people with single citizenship would naturally cause problems, and yet you don't want citizens with different rights as that would indeed create different classes of citizenship.

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The inventors of democracy, ancient Athens, specifically had a vote to ostracise (kick out) citizens.
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They also had slavery. And didn't let women vote. And lived over 2000 years ago. Why hold them up as a model to follow?
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> Not every country wants

This phrase is problematic and dangerous:

A country doesn't want anything; it's not a person. People use this phrasing to claim some authority (always for what that individual wants, of course) over others who disagree - 'the country wants, and I speak for the country'.

More importantly, humans have fundamental individual rights, including freedom - again, not countries but individuals. The rights are no less because some other people don't like the individual - immunity to the majority's desires almost defines rights in a practical sense; otherwise they aren't generally needed. You can't force people to leave or to do anything else because you don't like them.

It's dangerous because it's often used to violate rights and rationalize cruelties.

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It goes against the principles of classical liberalism: rule of law, civil liberties, and limited government. I don't think we should just shrug our shoulders and say that it's fine if some countries want to strip rights from people on the basis of race or economic class.
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Stripping citizenship for a reason that doesn’t involve a crime goes a bit beyond not wanting cultural diversity.

I know the word is used in cases where it’s hyperbole or just not accurate but there in fact people where the term racist is perfectly applicable.

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I don’t think the poster you responded to realizes what they said
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Thinking it's atrocious to take away someone's citizenship just because of where they previously came from is in no way a uniquely American thought. In fact it's shared by most people around the world who have a bit of empathy, compassion, and aren't racist.
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I think what they were saying is that America is generally more tolerant of cultural and ethnic diversity (i.e. it’s the default here) than many other countries.
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By granting someone citizenship, the government makes a serious promise to that individual. To break that promise because you don't like where they came from prior to that promise being made is stunningly unethical and lawless behavior.

And trying to cover blatant racism with justifications like "tolerance of cultural and ethnic diversity" is cowardly. Just say you judge people who are different than you and are willing to break fundamental promises in order to make them go away.

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> By granting someone citizenship, the government makes a serious promise to that individual. To break that promise because you don't like where they came from prior to that promise being made is stunningly unethical and lawless behavior.

100%. I don't think that's happening in the USA today. There are grumblings in the far right red corners about the possibility, though.

> trying to cover blatant racism with justifications like "tolerance of cultural and ethnic diversity" is cowardly. Just say you judge people who are different than you and are willing to break fundamental promises in order to make them go away.

Are you accusing me of this? I assume you're not, but I'm not entirely sure what your angle is.

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The United States is unusually ethnically diverse for a European colony but globally just about the middle of the pack. Most of the world is more ethnically and culturally diverse.

What the Swedish party in question is proposing, mass denaturalization and deportation of citizens (i.e. ethnic cleansing), is a human rights violation and violation of international law and wouldn't be done even by otherwise intolerant or autocratic nations. This harkens back to the darkest days of the Soviet Union and expulsions by Communist regimes towards the end of Yugoslavia, or early 20th century regimes.

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