Ukraine is not part of NATO
replyNATO countries already encountered interactions with rasha weapons, including acts of sabotages in the rear.. (vrbetice munition depot in czech republic, arsons in poland,..)
replyat this point the article 5 could be in circulation even without Ukraine being mentioned..
nato protects its own countries first. its not going to risk those to come towards non members. putin is pushing for it though so its likely not going to last long. Most countries in EU even far from these borders are on high alert, suffering lot of aecurity incidents and sabotage actions that were not happening before this war.
replyIrenology is the real cure for all of this though. political action or inaction will never bring, build, foster or protect peace because it is all rooted in polemology.
Doesn't matter at this point. Everybody treats it like an insurance policy of sorts and not like a political decision, precisely to pretend they are not making a political decision.
replyIt does matter for calling article 5.
replyOtherwise it’s just going to war.
Russia hasn't just been attacking Ukraine. https://theowp.org/reports/russian-hybrid-attacks-in-the-bal...
replyYou know what is funny about it? Russia does not benefit from US getting involved based on article 5, but guess who does.
replyThat’s why Russia attacks in the mentioned ways instead of an open attack.
replySo they can deny everything and play the victim.
They know the NATO countries won’t call article 5 for that.
And that benefits Russia
:D it is a plausible explanation. The 'fun' thing about war is that information is part of the warfare and in our times propaganda is more important than ever. Naturally, there is a simpler explanation: Ukraine needs a more direct intervention so it seeks to manufacture a reason. Crazy. People working towards their individual interests.
replyVery important distinction, sure. The consequences will land in a different powerpoint slide depending on which article it goes by.
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