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> I've run sans JS as default almost since its inception in the Netscape days and I've very little difficulty without it.

I guess you use the web in quite a limited manner? (Or use that other browser quite a lot...?).

I've tried no JS various times over the years and always end up constantly whitelisting sites. It's even worse in 2026 and gets worse each year.

Banking, insurance, webmail, groceries, eBay, CAPTCHAs... not to mention what feels like 50% of the web that is behind either Cloudflare or similar, which almost always require Javascript.

by archerx12 hours ago|

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I used to believe in that and would make sure all of my sites would work without Javascript until one of my projects (a micro community) got targeted by pedotrolls which lead to an awful time and now I associate people who are staunch no JS as pedos, I am not accusing you or anything but that is the impression it left on me. Ever since then I really don't care if the site doesn't work without JS, and if users can post stuff damn straight Javascript will be involved.

Unfortunately this idealistic principle (no JS) attracts the worst people.

You're on Tor? You have JS disabled? I might as well warm up fbi.gov/investigate/cyber for the probable report I'll have to do...

by hilbert4210 hours ago|

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Well, I find your comment pretty offensive. In the past I've had some pretty rough and disparaging comments from JavaScript fanboys but yours has to be the worst. Associating disabling JS with pedos is about as low as it gets. Where did you get those stats from, or are they just a figment of your imagination?

"Unfortunately this idealistic principle (no JS) attracts the worst people."

Again, how did you come to that opinion? Where's your evidence/stats? Generally comments like that come from web/JS programmers who've realized that client-side users have them stymied when they disable JS.

An additional reason I avoid JS is speed, webpages become blinding fast when there's no JS. Once one gets addicted to the great rendering speed there's no return. I'm not against JS per se, trouble is you JS programmers have weaponised it against users, webpages of 7, 10 and even 20MB are now commonplace. Presenting such slow massive pages to users is nothing other than abuse.

I do not use Tor.

BTW, I should point out that my views about JS and privacy abuse were formed from my years working in govt. surveillance where the stakes are very high.

by archerx9 hours ago|

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I came to my opinion through experience, I’m sorry you’re offended but I did say that I don’t imply that you’re a pedo but my stats sure show a pattern.

That does not change what I have dealt with. I am not a “JavaScript fanboy” remember I made a community that could work WITHOUT needing JavaScript and that lead to a bunch of grief for me which made me understand the extreme naivety of that original idealistic idea on the internet.