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by timpera11 hours ago |
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upvoteby 1072928711 hours ago|
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They want the EU to be the bad guy that prevents citizens to get all the nice stuff they release.
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upvoteby walthamstow9 hours ago|
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When in fact EU iOS is the only one that is even semi usable
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upvoteby mahboi7 hours ago|
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At least the EU killed Lightning, worst charger ever
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upvoteby MattDamonSpace7 hours ago|
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Apple was already shipping USB-C devices before the EU got involved

Thank god the EU didn’t get it’s shit together before usb-c, the original proposal was to require microUSB lol

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upvoteby mahboi7 hours ago|
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They were shipping USB-C MacBooks since 2016, plus the iPad Pro at some point. All those years they didn't bring it to iPhone, so I don't see any indication that they were going to do it, unless someone at Apple knows.

Also tbh I would have preferred micro-usb over Lightning. Non-reversible, but it at least would've charged my phone reliably.

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upvoteby juiceland3 hours ago|
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You think Apple was not looking to sell people replacement accessories?
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upvoteby mahboi58 minutes ago|
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Anyone can make USB-C accessories. Apple had control over Lightning.
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upvoteby maxsilver11 hours ago|
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Yeah, it's weird, the AI is the least interesting and least useful part of this product.

Apple basically made a HomePod mini that is also a Skylight - https://myskylight.com/calendar - and it's even competitively priced.

They could turn off all AI (turn off all of Siri even) and this would be one of the best products in the market.

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upvoteby joshstrange11 hours ago|
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Hmm, the first thing I thought when I saw the Skylight is "Can I run Home Assistant on this?" and it looks like the answer is: yes https://github.com/dinewby88/SkylightMaxCalendarADB
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upvoteby vablings9 hours ago|
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HomeKit and HAOS also bridge quite well together so same applies here I guess just an apple front end
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upvoteby joshstrange7 hours ago|
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HA's bridge to HomeKit is decent, but the Home app is miserable to use and flakey. It seems a strong breeze will break everything and re-setting-up 100+ devices is not something I enjoy doing.
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upvoteby jawilson210 hours ago|
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Interesting, the calendar2 has a header that says "Designed to Delight", and the new apple page says "Delight Up the House". That CAN'T be a coincidence...
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upvoteby joshstrange11 hours ago|
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The rumor is that this has been ready for 1-2 years and was waiting on "good Siri" before they would/could release it. So it follows that if they aren't releasing "good Siri" in the EU that this device wouldn't be available.
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upvoteby 233mhz11 hours ago|
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> It's interesting that they consider that this product would be unusable without Siri AI.

They might be perfectly useable but not profitable enough

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upvoteby fosron10 hours ago|
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i would love a dashboard for my smart home, but even as a fanboy of Apple i feel like HomeView doesnt do much, i'll just buy an eink screen, attach a esp32 of sorts and have it the way i want it without additional mics and shit
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upvoteby artisinal10 hours ago|
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The Google Nest Hub is legal in the EU because you can install whatever AI agent you want on it.

https://support.google.com/googlehome/thread/467705013/intro...

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upvoteby lxgr9 hours ago|
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Really? I have one, but I'm not aware of a way to swap out Google Home/Gemini for anything else.
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upvoteby WesolyKubeczek11 hours ago|
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This means it’s plainly unusable.
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upvoteby r0fl11 hours ago|
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Maybe Apple just doesn't care to put up with the silly EU rules.
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upvoteby poisonborz11 hours ago|
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Which of the rules specifically do you find silly?
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upvoteby xbar9 hours ago|
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Chat Control and backdoors.
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upvoteby layer89 hours ago|
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No such rules exist.
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upvoteby 93468302938 hours ago|
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upvoteby maxhille9 hours ago|
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I wonder if there will be proper answers - looks like some Yandex centers still chew out anti-EU propaganda...
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upvoteby r0fl10 hours ago|
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Specifically, Article 6(7) of the EU's Digital Markets Act, which forces Apple to give competing companies access to the same hardware and software capabilities it uses itself.

The EU's interpretation means Apple must provide third-party AI assistants with access comparable to Siri's, potentially including the ability to interact with messages, files, purchases and other apps.

Apple proposed a secure intermediary called Trusted System Agent and an 18-month implementation plan. The European Commission rejected those proposals.

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