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I don't know HN's rationale, but: if you try to ban self-promotion, then in practice you're only banning honest self-promotion. And if you allow it, but try to ban accounts that only exist for that purpose, then in practice you're encouraging them to spam mediocre comments in other threads to dilute the signal. [edit: I see that the guidelines do say not to use HN primarily for promotion. I'm willing to bet this significantly increases the amount of insincere engagement, but obviously the admins/moderators here are more aware of the tradeoffs than I am, and they have decided they are worth accepting.]

IMO the important thing to try to crack down on is vote manipulation; if you have that under control, then you can probably happily allow self-promotion and trust that only the interesting stuff will rise to the top.

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Any thoughts on what the alternative would be?

Perhaps a contribution requirement per post? Though this proposal just invites bots to actually post comments because that becomes a requirement for posting links.

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The guidelines already cover this:

> Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I assume that users who primarily/only post their own stuff and get flagged a lot reap the consequences, there's plenty of spam filtering on here thank goodness.

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Those who slip promo of their own sites among a stream of other legitimate submissions or just space it out enough across multiple accounts can fly under the radar for years. People know how to game HN and already are, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49517728
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That's just one account that unmasked itself and was noticed. Doubtlessly that didn't stop them from moving on to the next one.
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Oh, absolutely. But there are accounts that are active here for months or years, that one at least got killed while still green.
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make interactions with others' posts/post others' stuff a soft req for posting your own stuff? So not following it could be deemed actionable by the hn mod team?

Edit: nvm thats already in the guidelines

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Ostensibly, they aren’t. From the Guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html):

> Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.

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