With the pace they're delivering models, there's gonna be 1-2 new Gemini 4 versions by December 1st, presumably with their own introductory price windows. We just got Gemini 3.8 on 2 September and Gemini 3.7 on 13 August.
replyThis reminds me of telephone commercials that ran back around 1987, saying they were offering long distance calls for 10 cents a minute (a pretty good price back then) and -- this was emphasized, a huge selling point -- they guaranteed your rate would never go up. In retrospect, all the lols :-)
replyI wonder if that’s more to price in the cost of keeping old models around on expensive inference hardware. It’s not like old models get cheaper to run, and a more heterogeneous fleet is less efficient to manage.
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replyTheir last non-flash frontier release was 3.1 Pro back in February. Two new frontier releases at that pace would be Feb 2028.
replyDecember 1st is just ~6 weeks away. There's no way Google puts out even 1 more Gemini 4 version before then, let alone more than 1.
replyNo they've been releasing models super rapid fire. Other companies too. 6.1 sol was barely a week after 6.0 sol
replyDon’t underestimate the power of exponential growth
replyYou're conflating Gemini Flash with Gemini Pro.
replyOpus 5.5 is also priced at $4/$20, but are they on the same level?
replyAt that price I think you'd pick Opus 5.5.
replyIt's perhaps a face saving thing to pretend you'll charge the same. Let's see if it actually happens.
>$4/$20
replyIs Elon Musk doing their pricing?
That is the standard pricing for Opus-class models these days.
replyBlaze it, Robot!
reply4/20. It is to Musk what 67 is to children.
replyI think it's more 420 or 4:20 (marijuana reference) than 4/20 (Hitler's birthday).
replyAlthough given it's Musk, others may disagree.
GLM 5.3 is roughly Opus class and is much, much cheaper
replyIt’s more expensive than 6.1-sol though? At least according to benchmarks.
replyI think at this point comparing raw token pricing is often apples to oranges.
Opus 5 class yes, but opus 5.5 is functionally mythos tier
replyOpus 5.5 class?
replyNo, since that's a moving target. But the large GLM models are likely in a similar model weight class to the Opus family, just a few months behind
replyNo, and anyone who says otherwise is being silly.
replyIt’s still damned capable though, I’ve done a crazy amount of good work with 5.3 Flash.
There is no such thing as "standard pricing" for products with different performance profiles, architectures, inference costs and infrastructure stack
replyIt is price fixing, nothing else