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IMHO, that also should be addressed from the legal perspective very strongly. But forcing Safari for every Apple owner is certainly not the solution.
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That's ridiculous. You can't solve a monoculture with the legal system. The only solution is forced diversity, and to that end, I congratulate Apple for being the last guardian of the web as a truly open platform.

(I still remember when communities like Hacker News were screaming and howling at Apple for daring to rid the web of Adobe Flash, a corporate-owned proprietary monoculture cluster-f**k of security vulnerabilities. The virtue of Apple's influence on the web is painfully obvious in hindsight.)

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Allowing Google to use their control of the web to kill the most effective method of blocking ads is the solution?

No.

People need to stop using Chrome and Chromium based browsers and use browsers based on implementations of the web standards that are out of Google's control.

Firefox on Android supports the full version of uBlock Origin.

Chrome on Android doesn't support it.

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>IMHO, that also should be addressed from the legal perspective very strongly

Then do that FIRST (or at the same time). Don't give us, yet AGAIN, the tired bs song and dance about how you'll make things worse first and then totally someday address the other part properly, and oops what a surprise that turns out to be too hard nevermind.

>But forcing Safari for every Apple owner is certainly not the solution.

Objectively it is a solution though. Because it's been done, and it's been more effective than nothing, while meanwhile nothing has happened from a legal or political angles. If a better solution can be done down the road great, but a hack dealing with a problem non-optimally can absolutely be better then just having the problem completely unaddressed. And count me skeptical that any government is going to have the will or capability to actually address what a lot of us already hate about not just the Chrome monopoly but that entire approach (I don't in fact want my web browser to be a full lowest common denominator operating system with low level hardware access thanks). I dislike much of what Apple does now but I'm glad their selfish interests have happened not to align that way either. Until monopoly lock-in gets better addressed, one of the main ways to push back is via another monopoly lock-in that has different incentives.

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> But no way is it a good idea to let other browser engines onto the OS.

It's my device. I should be able to whatever the hell I want with it.

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You bought it knowing that you couldn’t.
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If the one other competitor didn't allow it, then would we be allowed to complain in your mind?

This argument is terrible, we're lucky the one other competitor, for now, allows installing what you want or people like you would argue everything is fine.

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If nobody makes the product you want, that is called a business opportunity.
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So? There are TWO platforms to choose from. T.W.O.

Your argument ... isn't one.

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> But no way is it a good idea to let other browser engines onto the OS.

Easy. Just legislate that the only browser allowed on iPhones is Firefox. That way, Chrome can't monopolize the web, and iPhone users get to have a decent browser.

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if someone told me you have to use ie6 so chrome doesn't take over every browser, then I'll just use chrome
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At the time the roles were reversed. The spin was "use Chrome to break the IE browser monopoly." And Chrome was a better browser, and much faster. It worked.
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Firefox broke the IE monopoly. Chrome rode Firefox's coat-tails with exclusive access to advertising space on the #1 website in the world.
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Not if ie6 is your only option
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>But no way is it a good idea to let other browser engines onto the OS.

And giving Apple a monopoly is a better idea?

>Safari sucks but it’s the only thing stopping Chrome from taking over everything.

Forcing users to use the Safari browser engine when they install Firefox or anything else is not the way to protect anyone from anything. It's abusive in its own way. And Apple is not going to save anyone from Google. People are still using Google services through Safari, because they are services Apple either sucks at or doesn't offer.

>Im happy if Google never has that amount of control. We don’t know how bad it could have been, we have enough privacy issues already.

So you're fine giving over all control to Apple. Apple already has way too much control. Being on the W3C board, they use their power to block any browser API that could make web browsers more capable, which would cut into their native app mafia racket where they charge 30% of any purchase done through an app. They don't offer any alternatives, or any changes - they just squash anything they see as competitive to native apps. That's how fucked up they are. They are literally holding back progress for no good reason - not security, not for privacy, it's purely for their own greed.

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I'm getting some serious "Microsoft has to protect Internet Explorer from evil competitors like Netscape" vibes from this comment.

Safari simply sucks. If WebKit was any good, then Apple wouldn't have to worry about allowing third-party engines onto iOS. The situation on Mac tells us everything we need to know.

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