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by drnick13 hours ago |
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upvoteby Walf1 minutes ago|
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Thunderbird for Android is just a fork of K9, after having acquired it. They're maintaining it for the foreseeable future.
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upvoteby aucisson_masque2 hours ago|
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K9 and Thunderbird on Android suck. The ui is clunky but worst of all, the search is bad. Very bad.

If you don’t do anything special, that will be enough but for everyone else that won’t do it.

If I type ‘repor’ in Apple mail, It will show me all report before I even type enter. And if there is too much, I will then add ‘2026’ for instance.

On k9, first you got to type the entire word because it won’t progressively search as you type, but then you press enter and see hundreds of mail so you want to add 2026 ? Too bad. Got to type report once again followed by 2026. Made a typo mistake ? Got to rewrite it all over again.

This is just bad.

And I’m not trying to diminish the work done by Thunderbirds/k9 developer, it’s just that it’s done by unpaid developers and it shows. Things move slowly and just suck at using.

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upvoteby Denatonium2 hours ago|
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Isn't a lot of that just the suckiness of the IMAP protocol? Mozilla is pushing to add JMAP support to Thunderbird, and they're planning on using it in their upcoming Thundermail hosted email service.
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upvoteby simfree1 hours ago|
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Having to retype the search phrase is just a plain old ux bug
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upvoteby steezeburger2 hours ago|
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Do most Apple users not just use the Gmail apps and web app? I haven't set up an email client in 20 years
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upvoteby setopt2 hours ago|
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I don’t know what most do, but I certainly prefer the default Mail.app over the vendor-specific mail apps.

If you’re already using one of the major providers (GMail, Outlook365, etc.), there isn’t much to configure; you go to Mail Accounts, click your provider like Google or Microsoft, and login on their website to authenticate.

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upvoteby steezeburger2 hours ago|
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Oh for sure. Huge assumption on my part. I just feel like 90% of people I work and interact with have a gmail account, and the last 5 companies I've worked at used gmail. I think the last time I setup Apple Mail was for my Grandma so she could see her old Cox account emails and Gmail emails in the same app.
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upvoteby wycy1 hours ago|
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The default Mail app still doesn’t support push Gmail, does it? That’s the only thing keeping me from using it. I otherwise strongly prefer Mail.app.
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upvoteby snazz35 minutes ago|
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That’s Google’s choice, not Apple’s lack of support.
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upvoteby kvuj3 hours ago|
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From what I've heard though, Mail has pretty horrible searching in Apple land. Just for that, it may be worth it to look at alternatives.
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upvoteby setopt2 hours ago|
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It depends on your provider, unfortunately. If you use their iCloud mail service, search works fine – it appears to have some way to do server-side search for their own email.
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upvoteby breatheoften13 minutes ago|
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I use icloud and this does not match my experience ... apple mail search has been insufficient on ios and macos for 15 years or more at this point ...
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upvoteby Gigachad1 hours ago|
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IMAP is a horrifically insufficient protocol. Literally every mail provider just implements their own custom JSON protocol to use with their own proprietary apps. Fastmail created JMAP which was meant to be an open source standard but so far only Fastmail uses it so it's just another provider specific protocol and client.
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