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I see correlation instead. You IPO when you grow like crazy. You build something like scion when you grow like crazy.
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And I think Not Invented Here has turned into Not Invented By Our Agents at many places.
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Devil’s advocate: This could turn out to be a good thing for software security. If each company’s stack is home grown, there will still be vulnerabilities (probably even more of them) but they’ll be less portable compared to today’s monoculture where an exploit for a common component will work almost anywhere.
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I remain unconvinced that they even need a new VCS to achieve what they want to. One has to wonder what the level of churn is at this number of PRs.
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Who cares about your opinions about what number of PRs is right? They want to make more PRs (particularly to a monorepo), they need a new VCS.

Even if they weren't making a lot of PRs, Github has been melting down enough this year that they've probably encouraged customers like Anthropic to move off.

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I was casting doubt on whether or not they need a new VCS to achieve their goal in the first place, not providing an opinion about the "right" number of PRs. Like most things coming out of these labs it's hard not to look at it as marketing. Their "changes merged per day" is absolutely meaningless unless you know the nature of those changes. I could make a graph like this by making tons of agent-based empty commits. That's not a problem that actually needs a solution, though. Furthermore, they _didn't even build a new VCS_, they copied one that existed and made a bunch of noise about it.
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Google and Meta hit these sorts of limits over a decade ago. They then built new VCS stuff to handle it, Meta's part is the subject of this submission. This was even pre-agents.

Git is just not suited to truly large monorepos, and it won't ever be. That's totally fine, of course. Less of a monoculture here would be great.

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fwiw I've heard accounts that Google's source control is also creaking under the weight of AI code changes, and that there's already a new frontend to it with backend revisions on the way too. When GitHub and Google and Anthropic all simultaneously have VCSs that start buckling I think it's safe to say it's a real phenomenon and not marketing.
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Did they make a bunch of noise about it, or did HN? This place loses its mind every time OpenAI or Anthropic posts a blog.
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There is no distinction at this point. If you know your blogs always get picked up by HN, and they do know this, then you know your blog is a de facto and gratis marketing channel and will use it as such.
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more = better
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> Here the data model is a direct copy, down to the terminology.

That’s not surprising to me - they designed and built it using their LLMs, of course it’s duplicating prior work. That’s essentially the core of what LLMs do, after all.

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Effectively nobody considering buying into the IPO cares about Anthropic's source control system. They could be passing around floppy disks and so long as they were still shipping nobody would care.
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Not about the details but the marketing story is all about how "agents" are building so fast they need to design new infrastructure for the new world, etc. Extra points if you spin it as though the "agents" have built some new never-before-seen architecture that is clearly better than the "human scale" stuff.

The intended audience is obvious from first paragraph alone:

> At Anthropic, coding is no longer the bottleneck to building systems or doing research. Claude is able to autonomously iterate on research loops, micro-optimize complex programs, and build new services from the ground up at a speed and scale we haven’t seen before. The bottleneck, now, is all of the developer infrastructure built for human scale: source control, builds, and CI.

Translation:

> We are so far at the cutting edge we need to build shiny new infrastructure to replace the smelly "human scale" cruft. How could you /not/ value us at $2T?

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Both things can be true, they're scaling fast and it looks good for IPO.
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Scaling what exactly? Anthropic doesn't release any new products except models. I'm sure you don't need tens of thousands of pushes every day to train models. Scaling fast is so far just their words, nothing else indicates it.
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> Anthropic doesn't release any new products except models

Claude.ai

Claude Code CLI

Claude Code Desktop (multiple platforms)

Claude Code on the web (aka Claude Code Cloud)

Claude Design

The Claude API

Claude SDK libraries

Cowork (just retired and merged into regular Claude)

Claude Tag

Claude for Legal

They ship a lot of products.

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And still in no way warrants tens of thousands of pushes. These all overlap pretty broadly
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Yeah that's all the same thing
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That would arguably make it look worse.
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Why is that bad?

Mononoke and Sapling are open source systems. Why shouldn't new software take inspiration from how they are designed?

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From my post:

> And, to be clear, I do not have a problem with Anthropic copying Mononoke’s design. (This is part of why we put out open source — to benefit humanity through the spread of good ideas.)

> But as LLMs continue to assist in designing new systems, they are likely to index heavily on existing designs. Mononoke is open source and in every LLM’s training set. If you ask Opus 5.5 or GPT-6 Astra (thanks Matthew Fowle) about prior art, they both immediately point out the similarities to Mononoke.

> Giving credit to those that came before us is now easier — and more important — than ever. There is no longer an excuse.

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So you'd like Anthropic to update their announcement so it credits Mononoke in addition to crediting Sapling?

Fair enough.

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Yes, and I would like it to explicitly say that their data model is very similar to Mononoke's, and avoid even the appearance of the idea that Claude came up with it de novo.
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I didn't think that their article implied Claude had come up with the design.

I thought it was likely that their team of 7 included ex-Meta and ex-Google people with knowledge of those company's internal version control solutions.

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I saw RMS give a talk once on Free Software. He wore three quarter length cargo pants and sandals with no socks, and spent a good amount of the talk picking a scab off his shin to the point where he started bleeding. It got on his fingers. No one said anything.

There are things in this world that people can and should be stopped from doing, and there which anyone can do unhindered if they so wish. In between those two boundaries there’s a standard of decent behavior that one should strive for in order to be considered a good person.

Giving credit isn’t required, but many consider it basic decency.

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"I built a thing in the style of X" (which is even more charitable than what Anthropic piece said) is different than "I incorporated X from Y to build a thing this way."
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