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by catigula9 hours ago |
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upvoteby MC9958 hours ago|
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> a haven for American pedophiles/criminals who end up fleeing the country

Only Jewish pedophiles & criminals. Israel will not let in random non-Jewish criminals to flee prosecution, only those who are provably Jewish are granted citizenship and non-extradition.

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upvoteby floro8 hours ago|
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This is where the wall broke down for me. Criticizing Israel is okay, but criticizing Jews is not. However this is one example of being "above the law" which affects all jews, not only israeli citizens.
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upvoteby catigula8 hours ago|
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I'm trying to be nice here, but yes, it's a racial nationalist policy. We don't have many of those countries left in the world.
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upvoteby jameshilliard5 hours ago|
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> We don't have many of those countries left in the world.

It's fairly common in Europe[0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis#Leges_sanguinis_...

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upvoteby newspaper15 hours ago|
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There are many ways in which Israel differs. For one it's a 78 year old colony that excludes the indigenous Palestinian population from returning to their ethnically cleansed homes. They also allow people to convert to Judiasm and enter, so it actually has nothing to do with their ethnicity and is solely based on religion.
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upvoteby jameshilliard5 hours ago|
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> For one it's a 78 year old colony that excludes the indigenous Palestinian population from returning to their ethnically cleansed homes.

The ethnic cleansing that happened when Israel gained independence was not in just one direction, Israel also did allow plenty of Arab/Palestinians to stay and gave them citizenship where feasible. It's not surprising however that Israel doesn't currently offer citizenship to a population that largely doesn't think Israel should even exist. States don't normally give citizenship to their non-citizen enemies.

> They also allow people to convert to Judiasm and enter, so it actually has nothing to do with their ethnicity and is solely based on religion.

It's not solely based on religion. It's also quite rare for people to convert to Judaism in general so that exception has little practical implications.

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upvoteby catigula5 hours ago|
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>The Law of Return offers citizenship to Jews wishing to immigrate, as well as non-Jews with at least one Jewish grandparent (see "Who is a Jew under the Law of Return?"), as well as their spouses

This is clearly a racial ideology.

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upvoteby thomassmith652 hours ago|
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That makes the policy sound gratuitous.

  The reasoning behind the 1970 amendment is usually traced to the Nuremberg Laws. Nazi Germany defined a Jew for the purposes of persecution as anyone with a Jewish grandparent. The amendment drew Israel’s circle of protection at the same radius: if having one Jewish grandparent was enough to be persecuted, it should be enough to be given refuge.
From https://masaisrael.org/law-of-return-israel
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upvoteby newspaper15 hours ago|
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I agree it's racist, but they also allow converts:

> Converts to Judaism who wish to immigrate to Israel are evaluated on a case-by-case basis by the Israeli Interior Ministry, which determines whether the conversion was sincere in its view

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