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by cebert3 hours ago |
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upvoteby thway152690372 hours ago|
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I can't help but feel that something soon gonna break, and break big. Like, the decompilation stuff either gonna get criminalized, or forbidden in training, or I don't know. Current state of affairs became super imbalanced, where I can decompile 400k+ lines big game in a weekend and rip it's engine; or, as pointed in sister thread, as someone cloned music processor device in 2 hours.

The question is who and when first blinks.

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upvoteby MisterMunchkin2 hours ago|
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I’m surprised it’s not already forbidden in training. They won’t even mention brands or characters because that’s wrongthink.
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upvoteby thway152690372 hours ago|
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I'm also surprised when reading stuff here like "agent harness app %X% is a new moat!". I mean, I can point even GPT itself on their own new app and it happily obliges in dumping all features, writing product doc or disassembling itself.

Not that I want it -- my tokens are not free -- but it's here. Up for grabs.

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upvoteby randomblock12 hours ago|
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What AI are you using? Image generators are kinda like this but AFAIK no LLMs do this. Maybe a little or warning about copyright at most for specific use cases.
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upvoteby toyg1 hours ago|
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Local AI will be made illegal under the guise of security, and then they'll just purge anything "revolutionary" from services. The endgame currently getting pushed by the big players is pretty obvious.
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upvoteby Gigachad1 hours ago|
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It'll be made illegal in the same way piracy is. Major platforms won't be able to host it but anyone who wants it will trivially be able to torrent the latest model and do whatever they want.

Other countries won't care and let people reverse engineer away.

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upvoteby jscheel2 hours ago|
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got a link to that comment in the sister thread?
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upvoteby deivid1 hours ago|
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I don't have the scale, but I got the protocol for the watch and it'll probably be similar enough.

Been using my implementation exclusively for months, seems fine.

https://github.com/davidventura/withouthings

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upvoteby tonyedgecombe2 hours ago|
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I'm coming to the conclusion that my life is improved the more I can leave these technologies alone.
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upvoteby in_cahoots1 hours ago|
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This is the unfortunate truth. I've gone through 2 Withings scales because the battery basically had planned obsolecense. Then I bought a Quardio smart scale, but the company went bankrupt and all cloud syncing went down. Meanwhile my mom's $20 dumb scale works perfectly fine.

These days it's not true that if you pay for the item, you're the customer. Now you're just a potential revenue stream.

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upvoteby mijoharas2 hours ago|
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Used to be a thing before LLMs too.

Here is a starting point. It includes a link to instructions on how to reverse engineer a Bluetooth scale[0], and it looks like someone dumped some data already.

[0] https://github.com/oliexdev/openScale/issues/786

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upvoteby CamperBob22 hours ago|
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True but it's good to see access to our own devices democratized, for once.

It isn't far short of magical to watch Opus hack a piece of connected hardware. Everybody should try to take advantage of that capability at least once, if only to see it in action before they nerf it.

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upvoteby eitally2 hours ago|
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I've had pretty good luck using Google Appscript to either access web APIs or screenscrape, then parse into a Google Sheet (which I either use as-is or as the source to populate a web app).
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upvoteby itopaloglu832 hours ago|
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We need an open firmware for these scales.

I just need a scale that syncs with my phone, and none of those subscriptions.

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upvoteby randomblock12 hours ago|
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I give it at most a week. People freed the Whoop pretty quickly. I mean, you could probably do it yourself if you have the time and an LLM, it's probably not that locked down.
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upvoteby rootusrootus1 hours ago|
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Maybe LLMs are going to help free us from enshittification. For now.
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upvoteby toomuchtodo2 hours ago|
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Reverse engineer anything with agents, from app behavior down to native binaries - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50058850 - October 2026

https://github.com/morluto/rea

https://rea.tools

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upvoteby k4rli2 hours ago|
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Pretty sure it's already possible. I have a small service running on homelab that syncs all the withings data to garmin. Has needed no attention in years and just works.
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upvoteby Analemma_2 hours ago|
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I'm not as optimistic. I think we're in a very small golden window and once companies catch on that reverse engineering is taking off in a big way, they're going to panic and start demanding cryptographically-sealed binaries with remote attestation everywhere. And they'll probably get it, because what the consumer wants barely matters anymore.
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upvoteby Terr_2 hours ago|
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Something something think of the children.

Except it'll all be locked down into a lower-bidder insecure state too.

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