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by jbm21 hours ago |
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upvoteby motionlessveloc20 hours ago|
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Early Model 3/Ys built in the US were unreliable. The ones built in Shanghai, though, are excellent. Berlin is somewhere in the middle.

FWIW, I'm into my fourth year of (Chinese-built) Model 3 ownership and it's been rock solid, the only services so far were to replace the air filter and wipers.

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upvoteby robotresearcher17 hours ago|
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Ooh, and tires I hope! Mine eats tires.
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upvoteby ryukoposting3 hours ago|
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That could be bad alignment or tire pressure. Are the tires cupping, are you getting uneven lateral wear, anything like that?

Besides that, EVs are just really heavy and weight wears out tires. Just a fact of life.

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upvoteby Waterluvian19 hours ago|
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Kind of a silly question but I want to be sure I’m piecing together a fair picture: both of those are five minute tasks you do yourself outside the auto parts store / driveway, right?
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upvoteby Rohansi18 hours ago|
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Accessing the air filter on the Model 3 isn't great but yes, can do it yourself. Many people just pay someone else to do things like this though.
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upvoteby moepstar10 hours ago|
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???

Rip away center tunnel carpet on rhs (lhd vehicle), remove 2 screws from below glove compartment, fold away panel, remove cap from filter compartment, remove 2 filters - put back together in reverse order.

That's literally a 20 minute job if you about know what you should be doing - a.k.a. read about the process in the free service manual of Tesla (only need an account, free) or watched a YT video...

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upvoteby Rohansi10 hours ago|
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The difficulty is more related to the tight spot it's in and not the process.
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upvoteby MSKJ1 hours ago|
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True, I broke the clip changing mine....
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upvoteby browningstreet19 hours ago|
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Yes. Or roll it into a $80 service charge when you get anything else done at a Tesla service center. Like the air filters.
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upvoteby rpmisms18 hours ago|
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So many things you just said are wrong. The control arms are 100k mile parts, and you can easily replace them with Unplugged Performance versions for under $1k.
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upvoteby plqbfbv15 hours ago|
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And I have no idea what kind of driving he's doing to spend 2-3k$/y . I got Front Upper Control Arms replaced under warranty, exactly once, in the lifetime of my 2019 M3 (also Fremont-built). I do a yearly inspection just to catch issues before they have a chance to become really problematic, but for the past 4 years I've always been told that "the car's underside is just perfect, there's nothing wrong with it".
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upvoteby jbm15 hours ago|
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Would you like to see the bills I got from Tesla? I've shared them before and I'm happy to do it again.

(Also my Tesla is 74.5k miles, so nowhere near 100k)

-edit-

I was a victim of misinformation from my local EV repair shop.

https://www.dormanproducts.com/pages/products/oe-fix/article...

The prices you are talking about are incorrect but there are 3rd party parts now.

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upvoteby kibwen20 hours ago|
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> My Toyota Sienna has been far more reliable than the Model 3, despite having many, many more parts.

This is less about EVs vs ICEs and more about Toyota's engineering quality vs Tesla's engineering quality, which is hovering somewhere in the vicinity of Homer Simpson's barbecue pit.

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upvoteby jbm15 hours ago|
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I should note that I didn't mean to imply it was inherent that EVs were less reliable, but rather, that engineering mattered and Tesla's engineering always had underdeveloped parts.
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upvoteby Waterluvian19 hours ago|
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Hey now. Homer’s BBQ pit was a work of art, built through pure passion of emotion.
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