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May I remind you of the promised 90 second battery swap…13 years ago? https://youtu.be/Oj6LaYFall4?si=RGE8mbZQFdElq0sq
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That wasn't a product they were going to sell to customers.
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The car certainly was (it had to ship with the capability, which it never did). And besides, your point is irrelevant.
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A bunch of the Model S production vehicles did ship with the capability. It was removed from later models. So that part absolutely shipped. Tons of cars on the road to this day still have the hardware in the car to support it.

And they did build one pilot station that did the battery swaps and did some swaps with real owners cars, but drivers didn't like the idea so they abandoned it.

And yes to my point, I said Tesla product, namely something that is sold to customers as is. So yeah it's relevant.

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> A bunch of the Model S production vehicles did ship with the capability.

Which serial numbers? I see no evidence of any customer shipments with this capability. Happy to be corrected with factual evidence, though.

> I said Tesla product, namely something that is sold to customers as is.

That’s not what the word “product” means. It’s not limited to products shipped to end users. Components used only in service stations, dealers, or for their own internal use that are produced by them are also products. Quite literally anything that comes out the output side of a production process is a product.

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The roadster hasn't shipped after 9 years. Including a referral program for preorders. I find it incredibly more insane to be trusting of this
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There are a long list of cars that have not-really-legal abilities.

The corvette ZR-1 had a special key that would unlock all the performance. I don't think it met emissions when unlocked.

Lots of newer muscle cars have performance modes and dragstrip modes that you shouldn't use.

Even other teslas, like model 3 performance and model s plaid have have track mode and dragstrip mode that shouldn't be used on public streets.

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The second generation Roadster (reservations for which opened in 2017) literally is the product they didn't ship.

Also Cybercab.

How many Optimus robots are out in the wild?

It is a scam, 100%.

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This was a product reveal for the new second generation Roadster though?

Cybercab is operating already on the roads? They're building the factory for mass producing them right now.

Optimus robot is still in development.

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*Third generation. They demo'd and took millions in deposits on the second generation roadster that never materialized.
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There are now 300 cyber cabs driving people around Austin, and they’re working on rolling it out.

Optimus is coming, the huge factory in Austin is being built now.

Late? Always. But coming.

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Telling how you skipped his first paragraph.
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For sure, that one is a miss (or very long delay)

Two outta three ain’t bad.

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He actually says in the video that it might not be legal to operate but they could still sell you one. Anything is legal off-road on your own private property.
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Yeah, once you leave the ground you aren't on your property anymore.
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Not true, though the exact boundary is not well defined. See US v. Causby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Causby

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Depends where you are, but generally you are good to around 400ft above your own property in most cases.
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FAA jurisdiction over the airspace is not the same as a rule prohibiting every form of powered lift-off within it. There's a lot of grey area in FAA regs - for instance you can land a plane on your lawn in class E (if you could manage it).
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He took preorders for the roadster nine years ago. It never shipped.
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What do you think this product reveal was for? The roadster.
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A product reveal implies it's a production ready vehicle.

This was an air tank with a styrofoam shell held together with glue. It's a rough prototype of a concept car.

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So... Still hasn't shipped?
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Still hasn't failed to ship either.
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this is a new roadster, the previous roadster hasnt sold a unit
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WAIT THIS ISN'T THE ONE THAT PEOPLE PREORDERED NINE YEARS AGO?
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The preorders converted over. It's the same product in effect.
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In the sense that they're both vapor, yes.
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"product"
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