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I used them all the time when I lived in LA and they worked great. I didn't have a single bad experience. In general they were much more pleasant than having a human Uber, but that's just my opinion.
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Super weird! I've been using Waymo's regularly for 3 years now, couple of times a week and this has never happened.
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I’ve definitely been in Waymos that take forty minutes compared to an Uber’s 10 to fifteen because they use very circuitous routes.
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A lot of that is Waymos not taking highways, but that's changing.
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I went to Austin a few months ago and half the interchanges weren't on Google Maps because they were built so recently. In the week I was there I think they finished building a new one near my hotel.

I wonder how reliant self-driving cars are on unchanging road infrastructure.

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There's something about the Uber-hailed Waymos that makes them so much worse than regular Waymos IMO.
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This is some crazy mental gymnastics.

I’ve seen them around in London - they are incredibly slow. There’s no way they’ll succeed here - speed is important for getting around.

This is what happens when people who live in a bubble automatically assume what works there must scale and make economic sense to the rest of the world.

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Average driving speeds in London are already very low. How can they possibly be sufficiently slower as to be noticeable?
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There's no way their slowness is going to make a difference in London. I would have thought the real problem is that they'll just get completely stuck at places where you have to be a bit aggressive to make any progress at all. They don't really have that in America.

That and cyclists/pedestrians can be kind of anywhere at any time. Again not a quite the same in America.

We'll see I guess.

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They get stuck in LA as it is which is pretty chill for a major American city all things considered.

They're just really cautious and do need an extra 10s to think sometimes, and there's a lot of driving scenarios that don't allow that much time to decide to go or not. The biggest culprit seems to be unprotected intersections with the potential for human/bike crossing, which includes driveways which they insist on using for dropoffs (even when they're obviously not public driveways), which they then take a very long time to leave.

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Really? Bad luck, I have literally never had that happen! What time was this? Because Austin is closing down 35 in the evening and it is just doing crazy things to traffic. Maybe it was that?
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Did it think it needed to take a very out of the way route?
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The perfect driving equivalent of AI slop
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