> Nobody said you could. This is a strawman.

Didn't mean it in that way. I meant a car with camera+lidar would realistically still slow down because of the reduced camera visibility.

> Tesla stans are the only ones trying to convince everyone you can only drive with cameras. Everyone else is pretty united on the usefulness of multiple inputs.

Ignore them. The latest Model S and X have radar again, but possibly unused right now, so they are probably going to roll that out in a refresh of the 3 and Y eventually.