Woody said:
reply> This isn't flying, it's falling with style.
Being able to take off from the ground. Not using a second system to vacuum its way up to a platform and then fall slowly.
replyThis machine demonstrated zero ability to gain altitude in the air alone.
The Kickflip demo showed it taking off from the ground: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5vsHHPVhJg
replyI don't think you watched the whole show. The third stunt was taking off from a stop to jump over some vehicles. So it did gain altitude in the air alone.
replyWell color me corrected. I’d probably quibble that this was a hop/jump the same way humans can jump but not fly, but I don’t have a strong definition at that point to argue for.
replyI’d need to go deep into something like being able to maintain altitude in the medium of air without positive impulse or something, but again, I don’t have a strong enough definition at this point.