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by ReptileMan13 hours ago |
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upvoteby InsideOutSanta13 hours ago|
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Yeah, I had a somewhat odd conversation with a Chinese acquaintance last year when she got to talking about how America sees China. Her point was that, "How am I not free? I can do whatever I want, go where I want, buy what I want. I can talk to you and say whatever I want; nobody is here listening to me."

The fact that she can't call Xi "Winnie the Pooh" on Douyin wasn't something that occurred to her, or maybe that she was aware of at all. I didn't ask. I don't like to get into these discussions when I'm in China.

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upvoteby computerex12 hours ago|
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There is no such thing as “free speech” anywhere. It’s all a spectrum and the Americans in particular are indoctrinated. It’s a red herring to distract from the real social issues. People in America have some of the worst healthcare in the world. But hey at least we have “free speech”.
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upvoteby foobar1000010 hours ago|
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Fixing healthcare or economic policies is typically an act of congress type of thing - not even an amendment. Large popular support - and it can be fixed. Fixing freedom of speech or the ability to vote at all - once it is gone - usually takes a price payed in blood. Sometimes rivers of it.
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upvoteby computerex6 hours ago|
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It's a red herring. There is no free speech in US. Here's your free speech: https://www.facebook.com/katievbentetv/videos/-youre-embarra...

Citizens of Palm Beach county cannot voice their opposition to how their tax dollars are being spent. They rightly want that money to be invested locally, instead the County uses it to invest $1B in Israeli bonds, something that people widely oppose.

They first said that it's a budget meeting and Israeli bonds are a "policy matter". Then they started arresting people for speaking out against it. Then they started arresting anyone who applauded.

"Free speech" -> I spit on American "free speech". It's the most insidious and dishonest thing. At least the CCP doesn't PRETEND to give people rights that they simply don't have.

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upvoteby dzonga2 hours ago|
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wish hn allowed reposts just to reiterate this point.

the U.S allows "free speech" if it's inconsequential.

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upvoteby InsideOutSanta7 hours ago|
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Socialized healthcare does have large popular support, though. Lots of things have large popular support in the US and still don't get done.
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upvoteby gWPVhyxPHqvk8 hours ago|
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I can't call AI "AI" without being termed an "enemy" by the President.
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upvoteby ngl9999 hours ago|
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That economic freedom is a fantasy fabricated so that the king can rob people fortune created by the themselves in the name of greater good.
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