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"The west" is a stupid idea America uses to force themselves and Israel into the same league as EU countries.

And China is not really supporting Russia, they make money off the war and want to keep it going as long as possible so both Russia and Ukraine become weak and more open to their influence. Is it evil? Absolutely, but you can't compare them to USA when Trump is actively doing regime change operations, deporting its own citizens and putting sanctions on the ICC.

Chinese communists want to stay in power at all costs but America wants to expand its power into the whole world. It's not the same level of danger at all.

by akho10 hours ago|

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> want to keep it going as long as possible

note that the volume of EU and US support to Ukraine is obviously calibrated to the same goal.

by jubilee3310 hours ago|

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Yes I unfortunately trust those who are motivated by money more than ideology. Greed, while horrible and ugly, is at least very predictable. Messianic, or even utopian or pretty much any ideology, can lead to absolutely insane levels of destruction. You just don't know what true believers of any sort are willing to do.

by abc423 hours ago|

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>And China is not really supporting Russia

Yes, yes they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_Russo-Ukrainian_...

by igetspam10 hours ago|

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To be fair, east and west are in relation to England, not the US.

Trump’s a smelly orange shit but the US at least pretends to have data privacy protections and we can’t legally compel companies to have back doors… yet. I think. It’s very hard to keep up with all the nonsense these days.

by swiftcoder8 hours ago|

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> and we can’t legally compel companies to have back doors

In a post-Snowden world where the existence of PRISM is no longer a secret, I'm not sure how folks can keep stating this with a straight face