You can usually be pragmatic but entirely emotional about something specific. Famously, Linus is both pragmatic AND emotional about being pragmatic.
replyThis is really short-circuiting my brain right now.
replyThe pragmatic ones are excited about where things are going.
replyThe ones complaining about "slop" are the ones going on vibes now.
I’m strongly with you on that. Current models aren’t perfect, but neither am I. In a lot of my daily use, they’re as good as or better than I am at certain tasks.
replyI hear people around me talking about a bad experience they had with ChatGPT last summer as though it proves all AI coding is “slop”. Honestly, it makes me sad for them. There are reasons to dislike AI, but so many detractors skip right past those to anecdata that just aren’t relevant anymore, if they ever were.
> I hear people around me talking about a bad experience they had with ChatGPT last summer as though it proves all AI coding is “slop”.
replyThey always quit right before it got good.
> Honestly, it makes me sad for them.
The the consternation? They’re going to be obsoleted in no time anyway, so we’re told. Are they missing out on some months’ worth of coasting as meat proxies before exponential takeoff? Is that the sad part?
Current models are still worse than I am, or any competent developer I've ever worked with. You act as though people tried ChatGPT in 2023 and gave up forever, but that isn't what is happening here. The cold hard truth is that, contrary to what AI boosters claim, LLMs still suck at programming and output slop.
replyIt's fascinating how far experiences can diverge. I've had fantastic luck with it starting about a year ago, and it's been rapidly improving since.
replyLooks like Linus doesn't agree with you
replyYou sound like a dinosaur looking at a meteorite.
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