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If Anthropic or OpenAI fails, the other wins the US market, no? I’m oversimplifying but…that’s a pretty realistic possibility in the face of people thinking sinking one US AI company would hurt the greater US venture into AI.
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> If Anthropic or OpenAI fails, the other wins the US market, no?

I am of the opinion that they both either succeed or they both fail. They are both losing money hand over fist and their model quality is pretty close to each other. There is not a whole lot that sets them apart.

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I agree on the analysis, but not on the conclusion. What makes you think that the conditions you describe are stable grounds for a duopoly where both could be successful at the same time?
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If one fails the bubble pops so you're right.
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What if both fail?
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If they did then Google would take over, and others would form from their competent engineers. Also, they don’t need to be profitable to succeed, they merely need to hype investors enough to ensure that their losses matter less than their growth projections.
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I wonder if Google won’t end up the last man standing in the end in the west, after Anthropic that they have a major investment and partnership with, and OpenAI crumble under their large financial burdens; while Google has a far deeper actual cash pockets, more diversified, broader and deeper bench in all related matters on top of the massive name recognition and… even if a bit brittle… a “community” of users through Gmail, Google.com, Google workspaces, etc. not to mention the TPU space and their quantum breakthrough.
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What if all of them fail because the capitalist model of centralization followed by rent-seeking gets foiled by an open alternative?

That is explicitly the Chinese strategy.

Now, what if the largest capitalist economy went all-in on an AI that might no longer be sufficiently monetizable?

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> explicitly the Chinese strategy

Oh come on, this post sounds like one of those twitter bots. No one seriously expected them to just give away billions in R&D for free, and they arent. The chinese model companies are actively moving away from the open source setup. Even state export controls.

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Let me quote the big guy himself:

> First, we should adhere to the principle of openness and win-win and boost innovation-driven development. As a new engine of world economic growth and an accelerator for the shift of growth drivers, AI is moving from the digital world into the physical world. We should seize this rare, historic opportunity to encourage open source, openness, collaboration and sharing. We should facilitate technological innovation, industrial development and scenario-based application of AI. We should make coordinated advances in the transformation and upgrade of traditional industries, the cultivation and growth of emerging industries and forward-looking planning for future industries, so that all sectors and businesses can benefit from AI

-- Keynote speech by Chinese President Xi Jinping at opening ceremony of 2026 World AI Conference

http://english.scio.gov.cn/topnews/2026-07/18/content_118605...

As a socialist myself, the above comment looks like a prime example of what Mark Fisher would call capitalist realism, the ideological belief that there is no alternative. The fact that somebody would think past quarterly earnings appears unthinkable to the committed ideologue.

They wouldn't give away R&D for free, they would give it away to destroy the capitalist mode of production, as outlined above. If that isn't a worthy goal from China's perspective, then I don't know what would be.

China isn't the US. They don't share the same ideology, strategy or conclusions.

As for the export controls, they explicitly exempt already-open models and set up an automated streamlined process for future ones.

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> As for the export controls, they explicitly exempt already-open models

Well... obviously. What the fuck is the point of export controlling an already open model.

> for future ones

Nope. >2T models (i.e todays frontier) is explicitly not allowed.

Also see: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-proposes-ad...

> China isn't the US. They don't share the same ideology, strategy or conclusions.

Money and power know no ideology. They do pretty much the exact same things as the US as well (from a 3rd country's POV). They expand territory, they capture industries, etc, etc, etc,.

> Keynote speech by Chinese President Xi Jinping

Do you take the same literal interpretations of other politicians' speeches? Surely you know thats politicking, the same way every G2/G7 leader says they want a collaborative world blah blah but it's naive to not know that it is cutthroat competition in reality.

> they would give it away to destroy the capitalist mode of production

Well, I won't take that dream away from you, but you're gonna be disappointed in this particular case, in our lifetime, with this particular country, atleast :)

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No? Why would either of one of those have to win? Even if you limit yourself to US companies only, Google and Meta still exist.
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The others, plural, meaning Gemini, Muse, and all the open weight models hosted by a competitive landscape of US providers. There is plenty of American players in the space outside of OpenAI and Anthropic if that’s the only thing you care about.

If Anthropic and OpenAI economics are as bad as they seem to be they deserve to fail, others will take over the remaining market. It’s not a team sport

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