Nothing short of unredacted network logs and packet dumps would convince people like you (and even then you could just say they are forged). In the eyes of HN the Chinese model providers can do no wrong.
replyAnyways, they can easily be sued by DeepSeek if they are lying.
> critical thinking is enough to know that Anthropic/OpenAI are responsible data sovereign and others are not
Critical thinking is not relying on a confirmed bad actor because you think the others maybe could be bad actors.
You still haven't posted a single link. Should we all just take your word for it? Are you the primary source, solenoid0937?
replyIf you're looking for the engineering blog post, you can Google it. Welcome to the internet!
replySo you're pushing a conspiracy theory, have no evidence to back it up, and you expect everyone else to do google searches to substantiate your claims. I see. Well, have a nice day then.
replyFeel free to hand your business's data over to DeepSeek, that's not my problem.
replyIt's just as much a marketing blog post, but I'm not entirely unconvinced, just unsurprised. AI companies fundamentally all want the same thing: unrestricted access to everyone's data. I'm not planning on relying on any of them if I can help it.
replyFor others, here's your blog post:
https://www.anthropic.com/threat-intelligence-report-septemb...
Is there any evidence though? Of the stolen credit cards being used by deepseek? You said there was “actual evidence”, what is it?
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