undefined

points

[-]

From a recent post here on HN, my agent stored it without the URL, it exists just as text for me to get philosophical with, I do that with insights such as above, so here is a quote:

Derek Thompson, in "I Know Why the Mathematicians Weep": "If intelligence becomes less uniquely human, we may come to value more highly what remains uniquely human: our capacity to relate and to care for one another".

Funnily my bot was called Cladius van der Bot, nice name ;)

by throw-the-towel5 hours ago|

parent|

[-]

Sure, but who's going to pay me for my capacity to relate? How am I going to convert that into rent?

by pianopatrick4 hours ago|

parent|

[-]

There are whole industries around that. Getting paid to relate is basically what teachers, trainers, coaches, therapists etc. do all day.

People could learn things on their own but still pay teachers

by yoz-y3 hours ago|

parent|

[-]

Teachers get paid?

Trainers, coaches, therapists… yes.

by pianopatrick3 hours ago|

parent|

[-]

Teachers do, in fact, receive paychecks.

by kbenson3 hours ago|

parent|

prev|

[-]

There are actually a lot of professions that either directly or indirectly rely on that. For example, therapists and social workers of many stripes, actors, writers, musicians, etc benefit directly from that, for at least some sub-disciplines/genres. Indirectly, almost every job where you interact with others directly to provide a service or sell a product (which is many, many things, and more than might first come to mind).

I doubt most people will be developing a rapport with an AI agent trying to sell you that contract at work, or helping you when you're irate and have escalated a problem a few times.

by red_candle_wax2 hours ago|

parent|

[-]

> There are actually a lot of professions that either directly or indirectly rely on that. for example, therapists and social workers of many stripes, actors, writers, musicians, etc benefit directly from that, for at least some sub-disciplines/genres.

All of those except for therapy are awful career fields. Musicians, actors, artists (outside the tip top of the field) are all the butt of jokes about how broke they are. Social work chases people out once they realize how powerless they are for such poor pay.

Therapist might make out well for a bit, but it seems like a loaded term these days .

by kbenson2 hours ago|

parent|

[-]

> All of those except for therapy are awful career fields. Musicians, actors, artists (outside the tip top of the field) are all the butt of jokes about how broke they are.

If you're aiming for the top, sure. There are plenty of people who make a living doing stuff like that and are happy because they enjoy it. You're unlikely to be one of those people if you move to an area where there's an extreme over-supply and try to "make it big", or try to be "pure" to the art and eschew commercial options. e.g. An actor in LA, the starving artist in a loft in NY.

> Therapist might make out well for a bit, but it seems like a loaded term these days .

Loaded how? I was thinking of psychologists, licensed mental health professionals, physical, occupational, and speech therapists.

by rbtprograms4 hours ago|

parent|

prev|

[-]

i dont meant to come across as too harsh, but that is something that you will have to figure out. if companies are less inclined to give salaries for technical skills, then its on us to figure out how our current skill sets become marketable.

even the job of freelance engineer is customer relation. how good are you at extracting product requirements? understanding a clients workflows? these take relational skills and are often what freelancers are paid for, beyond the ability to produce code.

by teekert5 hours ago|

parent|

prev|

[-]

It's about as specific as we can get atm I guess. I have no idea, I just know we VALUE human connection, there is unique human value in it. We value each-other.

Maybe we just sit around campfires and tell stories as the billionaires warm their hands on their burning data centers.

Don't forget that everything anybody owns is just a system we invented, my house, my garden, only a piece of paper that we all accept keep others from it.

We can reinvent ourselves. Idk, to me this is a comforting thought. But I agree it's still lacking. It's not simple, discussing things online helps develop language and vision around it.

by card_zero4 hours ago|

parent|

[-]

Speaking of inventiveness: I was listening to a history of hip-hop, and I started imagining an alternative past, with LLMs arising in the 80s, and AI inventing rap and rap culture. That fantasy is instructively ridiculous, AI doesn't invent things, it isn't cultural.

by patcon5 hours ago|

prev|

[-]

Agreed. This human is the ray of sunshine I needed :)