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Yeah I appreciate their approach which optimizes for information density a lot more than competing desktops, but it could certainly feel cleaner while doing so.

I think mid-00s commercial OSes are a good target in this regard. OS X 10.2-10.9 and Windows XP-7 had a pretty good level of density while also feeling relatively clean and would be good to take some cues from.

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Yeah I'd love to prefer KDE, but GNOME is closer to what I'm used to (Mac OS). Pity it's not that good and written in JS.

I've been hoping Cosmic DE improves enough to be usable.

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I use KDE and you made me right click everywhere and I can't find a menu without icons lol
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Yeah with KDE it's all or nothing, either every menu item has an icon or you can turn off all of them.

This goes against the original argument which is that icons should only be used for universal idioms that can be recognized by the icon _only_. Otherwise it's just noise

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where do you disable them?
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System Settings > Application Style > Configure Icons and Toolbars
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