Subverting the secure boot/upgrade chain would require a SecureROM exploit and presumably a compromise of the Secure Enclave, so the answer is almost certainly "no" (even prior major exploits from recent memory like usbliter8 are tethered and don't exploit the enclave; the last true untethered Jailbreak was iOS 9 or something.) An upgrade would fix it. The internet reporting claims this break they are showing in this video is untethered though, which is extremely rare on its own.
replyGenuinely, why have an iPhone in the first place if you want this?
replyIt's good to have that option for every phone out there.
replyWhat are alternatives? I keep thinking I want something I can run vibed apps on, especially something grok bot right on device.
replyyou can load your custom apps by usb onto any android phone.
replyThe videos sort of imply that these are userland rather than bootrom, whatever payload they have running is getting hit before first unlock, which isn't a lot of surface. They specifically say to not update which pretty much confirms where the attack surface is. Somewhere after the kernel starts but before the main user space is unlocked with the passcode.
replyI know it's an unpopular opinion, but I disagree.
replyI want the freedom to install the OS I want on my phone. Now if I install a proprietary OS, I get what the developers of that proprietary OS choose to do. And if that proprietary OS does not give me root access, well, that's life.
the fact this opinion is voted down, is clear proof HN is late to be renamed something else, because hacker it isn't
replyI once again am pointing to the sign that states this was never a l33t-hax0r board like you all think; it's always been an arm of one of the leading VC incubators.
replyStop expecting differently.
Curious now: why did they call it "hackernews"? I came for the name, definitely not for the VCs. The one thing I dislike more than BigTech is VCs.
replyYou answered your own question :)
replyHaha yeah, well played :-)
replyHN for HackerNots.
replyI don’t think that hackers would agree to be locked out of a system, or do you mean they want to be locked out as a challenge? In any case you don’t get to choose which OS gets installed, so the parent’s opinion is hypothetical.
reply> In any case you don’t get to choose which OS gets installed
replyOf course you do. You can run GrapheneOS, or LineageOS, postmarketOS, or mobian, or many others. All of those are open source, you can modify them as you want before you flash them.
HN has and always will be majority lil VC money funded tech bros who know nothing about actual hacking
replyWell the governments and supranational bodies who want to read your messages would be aghast at you having root on your phone.
replyLike we did on HTC G1s in 2008