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by moecables19 hours ago |
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upvoteby onlyrealcuzzo17 hours ago|
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Probably something like:

MiniMax -> Qwen -> DeepSeek (pro) -> Gemini (Carbon) -> Fable (to beat Carbon) -> Astra (to be slightly worse than Fable but cheaper).

I doubt we'll see any major US release besides Grok in the next 3 weeks.

Would be nice if we got a Terra that's competitive with Gemini Flash and DeepSeek Flash.

The fun part is, we're already at the point where we are seeing something frontier-ish almost every single week.

The really fun part will be when they all start adding System 1-3 natively (IMO) - which I think will be the next release cycle.

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upvoteby henry70017 hours ago|
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> Would be nice if we got a Terra that's competitive with Gemini Flash and DeepSeek Flash.

GPT 6.1 Sol is already the new Terra IMO. Same pricing as old Terra and competitive performance with even Astra on strictly coding-oriented tasks.

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upvoteby onlyrealcuzzo17 hours ago|
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It's almost like there's a dimension besides time which is important - speed, which Sol 6.1 moved vastly in the wrong direction on...
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upvoteby 0xcoffee13 hours ago|
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This is repeated a lot however the benchmarks show sol 6.1 does well on time per task: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/releases/gpt-6-1-sol?in...
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upvoteby thefourthchime15 hours ago|
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I doubt we'll see Grok either. After the 4.7 disaster, I doubt they want to be embarrassed with 4.8.
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upvoteby aenis4 hours ago|
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Would you care to elaborate? Grok is the only major model that I haven't tried. Was it that bad?
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upvoteby simondotau1 hours ago|
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The problem with Grok 4.7 is that it's not amazing at anything, and didn't even retain the blazing fast performance of Grok 4.5 which made it awesome for highly interactive workflows.

But despite all the negative coverage, I can say with confidence that Grok 4.7 is a great code reviewer. You know who says that? Every other model. A lot of my time is spent orchestrating code reviews. I will give the same prompt to three models, then give each model the responses from the other two models to assess and rank them. Finally I give the rankings and meta-rankings to Opus to synthesise a final report.

Right now, for the code I'm dealing with (embedded c++, python, swift, and CFML) I'm fairly consistently seeing every other model rate Opus 5.5 first, with Grok 4.7 a very close second, often finding real issues other models miss.

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upvoteby iyonn5 hours ago|
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what do you mean with system 1-3?
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