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by SwellJoe17 hours ago |
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upvoteby pjerem15 hours ago|
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I don’t agree. I tried the $20 Claude Plan and was able to reach the 5 hour limit in maybe one prompt.
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upvoteby jamiejquinn14 hours ago|
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Would you mind sharing that prompt? I'm struggling to even hit 10% of my Claude quota! I don't want more work out of it TBH but I'm interested...
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upvoteby LeFantome14 hours ago|
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I have been using DS Flash 4.1 pretty heavily. It runs for hours and hours and is pretty cheap.

I realized the other day that I had a $30 a month Claude subscription. So, I fired it up all excited and tried Opus 5.5 on a codebase I was already in with DS. After about 30 minutes I hit a 5 hour limit. The next day I tried again and the same thing happened. And it felt much slower to boot. I was super disappointed.

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upvoteby ricardobeat13 hours ago|
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Did you use Fable, set Opus 5.5 to xhigh, or use 'ultracode' / workflows? That's the only way this will happen.

In my experience a single 5 hour allowance in the 20eur Claude plan equals about $5-10 in Deepseek 4.1 Flash API usage. DS is a lot more token hungry and takes 3x-4x longer. The subscription is way cheaper, probably around $200/month worth of DS, just stick to Opus low and Sonnet for most tasks.

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upvoteby r_lee14 hours ago|
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do you use their proprietary platform API?

and how are costs like for your usual workflows/etc.?

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upvoteby jmspring13 hours ago|
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There is a $30/mo Claude subscription?
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upvoteby arcanemachiner13 hours ago|
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If you're not paying in USD. ;)
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upvoteby epolanski13 hours ago|
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DS 4.1 is basically endless, even if you paid for APIs you will hardly touch some prices.

But it's slow.

I don't think I can any longer appreciate any major difference in "intelligence" between models for most tasks but Opus is consistently much faster than competitors at finishing tasks and keeping me in the loop.

Of course excluding ultra code, the you will wait 50 minutes for a minor refactor.

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upvoteby joquarky11 hours ago|
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It's not just prompt, it's also which model, effort, time of day, fast/flex, etc. This is why people have such different experiences.
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upvoteby SwellJoe14 hours ago|
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Yeah, the $20 Claude plan is stingier than one might like, but not as stingy as Kimi. I think the best $20 subscription deal these days is probably from Google, now that Gemini 4 Argon exists and is an acceptably high quality model for coding. It's got quite generous usage and includes some other Google account upgrades (though I know some people don't use their regular account for Google AI for fear of account suspension or whatever, so the extra storage and other account upgrades are not a useful thing). I can use it pretty heavily without ever running into caps. The $20 ChatGPT plan used to be similarly generous, but no more.
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upvoteby copperx13 hours ago|
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Gemini isn't generous at all 5-10 Argon prompts and that's it.
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upvoteby SwellJoe13 hours ago|
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When I've most recently done the same tasks across multiple providers I have a subscription to, I found the order of generosity of them was something like Gemini->Claude->ChatGPT->Kimi. OpenAI used to be a lot more generous than all of them, but that ended recently, and now it's quite stingy in the $20 plan. What competitive model has a more generous subscription than Gemini?
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upvoteby copperx12 hours ago|
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Opencode Go, if you think DS 4.1 is competitive.
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upvoteby SwellJoe12 hours ago|
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I have a DeepSeek account and almost always use it when I need something with API access. I consider it Good Enough™, if not competitive. I also have a MiMo token plan, though that's weird in that it's not a monthly subscription, it's just a bulk buy of tokens that expire after a year, but still seems to be a pretty good deal on a pretty good model.
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upvoteby DaSHacka13 hours ago|
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That's surprising, I had the exact same experience as GP. I dropped my Kimi sub this month, but I'm keeping claude because I can use Opus 4.8 basically endlessly. Even Opus 5.5 doesn't drain the usage that much, though I rarely use it because it refuses to do anything cyber-related.
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upvoteby dzink13 hours ago|
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It is a LOT more efficient on claude code. Takes forever to run out of credits, and a whole lot of useful code gets generated. The web Ui reconstructs code while claude code just tweaks it.
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upvoteby arcanemachiner13 hours ago|
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How long ago was this? The amount of usage they give you for a given plan seems to change over time, and the Claude limits seem to be more favourable recently.
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upvoteby Wowfunhappy13 hours ago|
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I don't think the limit changed per se, but Opus 5.5 consumes a lot less usage than 5.0 did, so it goes further.
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upvoteby fastball13 hours ago|
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Was the prompt "Re-implement Call of Duty 4, make no mistakes"?
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upvoteby epolanski13 hours ago|
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I had the same experience with OpenAI's 20$ one, literally one prompt to do some code analysis, it didn't even complete it.

And that was 6.1 sol xhigh, not astra max..

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