> Well that "screw up" was so egregious that it should take at least a decade to regain any trust.

Do you use macOS? Because if you did, then how did you recover from them allowing anyone to straight-up log in as root without password? And then mess up the fix for that bug? That wasn't 2008, that was 8 years ago.

> it should take at least a decade to regain any trust

Then as it has been 2 decades you should be all good right?

Security practice was generally very, very bad two decades ago, by today's standards, across the industry.

I don't see the point of being so fixated on that.

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