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It's all moot soon:

Updates to your Google AI Plus plan

We wanted to let you know about changes to the models that you can access with your Google AI Plus plan.

Starting on 1 3 N o v e m b e r 2 0 2 6 , the ability to select Pro models in both the Gemini app and AI Mode in Google Search will only be available to Google AI Pro subscribers and above. You'll still have access to our latest Flash-Lite model and Flash, built for speed and intelligence. Your previous chats using the Pro model can be continued with a different model.

To learn more about these changes, you can visit our Help Centre article for additional details. You can manage or cancel your subscription at any time.

Thank you for being a Google AI Plus subscriber.

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upvoteby ImaCake1 hours ago|
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For search I am perfectly happy with 3.6 Flash, its fast and servicable, and maybe being too smart is almost a problem for search and research. Mostly the edge google has here is that websites blocked for claude or chatGPT (if it respects the block) are unblocked for gemini.
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upvoteby dada2166 hours ago|
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I have a pro subscription and got Argon about two weeks after the announcement, I'm on the annual plan, got the 30% discount by switching it from monthly. Usage on antigravity is not included, usage via chat is absymally low. It's a good model though.
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upvoteby jeremyjjj5 hours ago|
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It should be available on Pro in Antigravity now.

It has a seperate weekly limit that is very low. Maybe it can be pulled off that usage tier and just regular usage since Carbon is being released?

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upvoteby singingtoday4 hours ago|
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I have a pro subscription and still don't have Argon. I can only access it via API.. I guess I can set antigravity up with that.

But it just all seems so tedious when codex and Claude are so painless.

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upvoteby Havoc5 hours ago|
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Now if only I could sign up for a pro plan…

Unfortunately their plan structure is on par with their model naming.

The plans that allow for own domain and the plans that allow for sane AI use are mutually exclusive

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upvoteby RajuChacha1084 hours ago|
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My mother travels across two countries often. As a result she can not but Youtube Premium or any AI Pro plans because Google can't detect her country. The pricing in both countries is same. She wont even mind paying the highest plan.
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upvoteby david-gpu5 hours ago|
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I have a yearly plus subscription and I am still seeing 3.6. I am not renewing it once it expires. Why not give subscribers a small usage quota of their latest flash models?
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upvoteby zarzavat5 hours ago|
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The borg cube does not understand customer satisfaction.
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upvoteby david-gpu4 hours ago|
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Clearly! I was a happy customer, but that decision made me go through the effort of setting up a pay-as-you-go inference service with open-weight models, which I didn't want to bother learning how to do. But now I am perfectly happy with them and lost any interest in Gemini.

I bet I am not alone, either.

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upvoteby doodlesdev6 hours ago|
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Only available to Google AI Pro subscribers. Google AI Plus hasn't got Gemini 3.8 Flash nor Gemini 4 Argon.
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upvoteby cubefox5 hours ago|
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What's then the use of the Plus subscription?
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upvoteby wasabi9910115 hours ago|
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Same as the ChatGPT Go: higher usage limits, more image and pdf uploads, more tools
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upvoteby zarzavat5 hours ago|
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ChatGPT Go gives you access to Sol which is much better than the ancient 3.1 Pro.
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upvoteby wasabi9910112 hours ago|
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I agree, I don't think Plus is a good value proposition
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upvoteby Computer04 hours ago|
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But also no storage
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upvoteby cubefox2 hours ago|
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Oh okay. Though OpenAI's model (GPT-6 Luna) seems a lot better than Google's (Gemini 3.5 Flash-Lite), so I don't see why anyone would pay for Gemini AI Plus.
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upvoteby hangrybear6663 hours ago|
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Same. So after their now third announcement of a new model while locking their own customers out of it, I've just unsubscribed
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upvoteby Matl5 hours ago|
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They recently made it so you're stuck on 3.6 Flash if you don't pay them enough.
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upvoteby wasabi9910115 hours ago|
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Note this is also true of OpenAI and Anthropic too (except Anthropic doesn't have a tier between free and all-models-available)
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upvoteby wasabi9910115 hours ago|
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Disingenuous to not mention what plan you are on.

If you are talking about free versions, OpenAI and Anthropic also have a difference between free models and models available to 25$-tier plans.

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upvoteby zarzavat5 hours ago|
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No, not free. I'm on a paid plan.
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upvoteby wasabi9910112 hours ago|
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Still not saying which paid plan. I don't really understand why you think that doesn't matter. Google is not the only company to have different model availability for different plan tiers.
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upvoteby fastball3 hours ago|
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My workspace account is "Expanded AI Access" and can't access any Gemini 4 models. Disingenuous to ignore the fact that you can't even sign up for Plus/Pro/Ultra on a non-personal account when talking about "what plan you are on".
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upvoteby wasabi9910112 hours ago|
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I didn't ignore anything. I chastised for the missing information and gave a potential reason (which could totally be wrong for who I was replying to, which I acknowledge by saying if).

Thanks for sharing your experience though, it's a more substantive piece of information than who I was replying to.

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