It's supposed to be from 'smallest' to 'biggest' not release date.
replyThe problem is when they stop releasing big models for so long that their small models overtake large ones.
replyUser wise, the average person will see pro and expect it to be better. Where as companies like OpenAI have tended to release across small/mid/large such that the disparity hasn’t been large in terms of a smaller model outperforming their latest mid/large model.
You would hope they wouldn't have old big models that are worse than new small models available in the interface like that.
replyPro is better, except for agentic coding work
replyMicrosoft has figured this out:
1. No models at all.
2. Everything is copilot.
reply“What?” You ask?
Yes.
That’s why no one uses it and it sucks.
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replyClaude and OpenAI were doing it. What good are business lemmings if they don't yeet themselves off a cliff?
replyAlso limits are horrendous on all plans I might as well instead use Fable that would cost me less
replyI only use Pro for Google as their models were so far behind, but I tried to give Argon a go, and notably it is only available in the chat interface. One brief conversation, with three exchanges, and my quota was exhausted and it restricted me to Flash-lite for the rest of the day. Rather comical stuff.
replyAnd it prompts me to upgrade to Ultra for "5x more usage". In contrast I use my Claude Max plan endlessly, on enormous problems, and my 5x max plan sees me almost never hitting double digits on my quota using Opus 5.5. It doesn't compel me to sign up for Google's higher level plans.
i hear this but i can't believe it. I'm writing multiple moderate apps. rebuilding entire distributions. not coming anywhere near hitting the limit. Pro plan (on a discount too). What am I doing wrong (right?)?
replyIm using pro on a discount. I got argon a few days after the release but the usage limits are worthless. Asking it for a simple review of a blog post blows through 50% of the usage limit. And in the limited experimenting I have been able to do because of that it also isn’t smarter than 3.8 flash.
replyHow are you coding on the Pro plan without antigravity? Copy/paste?
replyI'm on a Pro plan and Argon is in Antigravity for me now for some reason. It wasn't available at launch so I'm not sure when they backtracked.
replyI'm on the Pro as well, haven't checked if argon became available on antigravity, will tomorrow, thanks!
replyI noticed the usage on chat is absymal, but it could very well be that their own harness does a good job in caching and you can squeeze good usage out of it due to this.