You hit the nail on its head! Hacker News has been shadowbanning AI-generated content.
replyThis is not just a spam filter. It's an innovative way to value the human factor—the most precious value in online communities.
Do you want me to pull a poem out of my ass?
Do you want me to
replyPull a poem out of my ass
For you to peruse?
Can confirm, got caught by it once. We were discussing if prompt engineering is still relevant, and I copied both the prompt I used and the output I've got. I realized I was shadowbanned because I'm not logged in on every device I use for browsing HN.
replyI think we can do without people pasting llm generated output into the body of an LLM comment, if people need to provide it for some example, they can do it via a one of the services like https://pastes.io and an outbound link with appropriate description.
replyYeah but the comment is shadowbanned (hidden except for the author), so people don't realize that they have done something wrong.
replyyeah, it would be good if the commenter (if they've never before tripped the no LLM generated text guardrail) could get some kind of warning like "don't do that, and here's why..."
replyWhy is this downvoted???
replynote that this also applies to ironic LLM-assisted shitposts
replyI think there should maybe be a little more leeway/amnesty for accounts that aren’t new or don’t have a high rate of LLM tells. IMO if you could self-declare the AI usage and wrap them in <details> tags to handle the verbosity and attribution you could integrate it reaosnably
"Ironic" bad behaviour is still just bad behaviour.
replyYou’re absolutely right
replyIronic speech is the main way people make jokes. Sure, ironic violence or something like that isn't a thing outside of WWE, but you shouldn't equate all "bad" behaviors.
replyIn the past we could have said that we shouldn't expect an internet forum filter made of regex patterns to detect irony, but with LLM's as viable modding tools, I'm not sure that we shouldn't raise our standards...
Remember that you can vouch for a flagged post.
replyI always do this when it is flagged incorrectly, but it doesn't usually help much because multiple people have to vouch.
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