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Google at least has been investing very heavily into cloud security. They acquired Mandiant ($5.4 billion) and Wiz ($32 billion). Many people felt those were very expensive acquisitions at the time, but maybe it seems like a wise move now.
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Those are standalone products and professional services, not internals they use

A problem is some people and teams are world class at a big company... But not everyone, everywhere. For a fun time, read about the rollout and internals of Azure.

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This sounds really interesting — have any links you wouldn't mind sharing?
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I mean, Microsoft and Security, those two words have never really been associated with each other in a serious conversation.

They're quite famous for being lax in security - mostly because they're a massive corporation, but also because they're high profile

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That's why the comment said "outside Microsoft".

But keep in mind Google got hacked by the Chinese in 2009 or so.

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Apologies - I did misread
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“besides Microsoft”
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Sure. But that's not the words they used.
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Back when APTs were getting numbers, the joke was that Microsoft was "APT -1". The presence of windows/excel/outlook in your network was more of a threat than Anonymous, China and the DPRK put together.
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