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by EbNar4 hours ago |
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upvoteby californical3 hours ago|
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Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash. I can’t believe how far I’ve gone with only spending like $0.70 so far on credits
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upvoteby hokkos2 hours ago|
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When looking at the performance / price graph of artificial analysis, we can see that deepseek doesn't seem to have a better profile, just notably worse and slightly cheaper models, so in the future a chatgpt user will be better serve with switching to Luna or Terra that have better profile than deepseek.
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upvoteby alt-machine-ref3 hours ago|
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Deepseek is truly a dumdum model if you move your full work into it.

For small evaluation ds is impressive.

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upvoteby EbNar3 hours ago|
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I can use DS and others through my Kagi sub. The thing about ChatGPT was the integrated environment/memory and the ability to create artifacts, which make it very useful for my job (teaching /researching). I don't use llms for coding, nor for agentic stuff.
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upvoteby znpy3 hours ago|
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> Definitely have to recommend putting $10 in openrouter and try deepseek 4.1 flash.

I'm pleasantly surprised by grok models.

We use cursor at work and i'm at the $20/month plan.

I used to mostly use Gpt, composer and occasionally opus. But this month i maxed these models quota and I've been working with Grok 4.7 essentially non stop for the last two weeks.

Grok is fairly verbose and somewhat slower but in the end it does get the job done. I've done a surprising amount of work (planning, implementing, tool usage, analysis) on the base plan.

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upvoteby EbNar2 hours ago|
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Giving money to Musk, tho... I'm not saying anybody shouldn't... I'm saying I'm not going to.
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upvoteby znpy1 hours ago|
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i don't really care, frankly.
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upvoteby newdee1 hours ago|
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Why say anything then?
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upvoteby rickdeckard1 hours ago|
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Sharing of opinion obviously, which is a purpose of this platform. Is this only valid if a poster also condemns all other views?

OP is not even demanding others to adopt it, so I don't see why it rubs people like this.

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upvoteby pcf1 hours ago|
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But you still wanted to say something, didn't you?

Well, if so I'll say something too – I would feel better giving money to a company led by a man who has stated repeatedly why he wants "maximum truth-seeking AI".

Ironically enough I'm currently on a ChatGPT Pro 200 package because OpenAI has been my platform for all my serious (non-coder-guided) coding work so far.

But with this new change I might actually finally jump ship. And maybe it would be to SpaceXAI and their Grok Ultra package. That's still $200/month for me, but I would get 50x more usage compared to plus, compared to "just" 20x with ChatGPT Pro 200. It looks tempting.

Musk's main concept summarised by Gemini: "Truth as Safety: Musk argues that the most important aspect of AI safety is ensuring the system is maximally curious and honest, even if that truth is unpopular.

Raising vs. Programming: He compares developing superintelligence to raising a child rather than strictly coding it, warning that forcing an AI to hold contradictory or untruthful principles will break its logic and make it 'insane'."

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upvoteby NorwegianDude1 hours ago|
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Grok is the least "honest" out there. And you should 100 % never believe anything Elon Musk says, he's one of the most clueless and unreliable people in existence.

Grok had specific baked in instructions to avoid negative statements about Musk and Trump, how is that for truth seeking? No other LLM company has done that from what I know.

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upvoteby defrost1 hours ago|
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Reportedly LLMs from China churn and struggle a little with questions related to Winnie the Pooh:

DeepSeek’s Winnie-the-Pooh Problem (Feb 2025) - https://medium.com/humanai/deepseeks-winnie-the-pooh-problem...

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