The vanilla advantage is also there in a pure client-side pwa. Arguably it’s even bigger, because the bundle size ends up way smaller and the agent needs to hold less in context.
replyPlus all the other vanilla advantages: fewer dependencies, lower maintenance, less retraining, etc…
I'm reading that agents can now mash up video games that were written in assembly. At that point I have to wonder if the abstractions are adding anything.
replyOf course, there is the question of "the human can still understand what is going on", but it's not clear the new frameworks are optimizing for that...
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replyI mean maybe I'm too grumpy, but never in my life did I think I'd have to fight against a strong contingent of people who really don't see the value of abstraction. Taking crazy pills must feel like this.
replyYour mistake is trying to fight people. You don't have to do that. You can just let them suffer from the consequences of their own decisions.
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replyThey also were unnecessary even before AI, the biggest advantage of React over HTMX-style apps was that you could recruit someone more easily but the SPA complexity wasn't worth it and it scaled terribly.
replyNow that you don't write the code now, I don't see why I would pick React style libraries unless the codebase is already there.
We just write different stuff. For content driven websites you can skip js frameworks altogether. For web apps it would not be a good idea.
replyIt's all about how much interactivity you need. A lot of business web apps are full featured commercial software packed in SPA form. You will need a lot of stuff client side and without framework it will be a mess. Unless you write framework yourself but the you are reinventing a wheel.